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  1. Upgrading the Shin Megami Tensei Hindu Gods to 2-A

    Done, i've changed their tiers.

  2. Shin Megami Tensei Discussion thread

    I think Beelzebub/Baal and Metatron should be higher. You also forgot Dante...He should be around Beelzebub in power level.

  3. Upgrading the Shin Megami Tensei Hindu Gods to 2-A

    Oh sorry, my bad. And yeah, they are, the Trimurti follows the same original order as the mythos.

  4. Upgrading the Shin Megami Tensei Hindu Gods to 2-A

    Their power is constant in the SMT games, since they're always one of the strongest demons one can summon. I'm okay with this too, i've already stated it during the first disscussion.

  5. Shin Megami Tensei Discussion thread

    I think i'll make a protag/Sidekick list based off Magi's Demon list just to make things clear. DeSu2 Tier: Hibiki. God tier : Flynn (IV:FINAL) Nanashi (Possibly) Top tier : Aleph/Hiroko Overlord Abel Demi-Fiend Raidou Nakajima/Yumiko(Game) Shujinko (SJ) Serph/Sera Kyouji / Rei...

  6. Shin Megami Tensei Discussion thread

    I can't remove it myself since the page is blocked.

  7. Shin Megami Tensei Discussion thread

    God damn it Kaneko, you and your phalic demons. Welp, gotta remove it then. Hiroko starts as Law just like Beth. http://imgur.com/a/t2oau Here's the proof.

  8. Shin Megami Tensei Discussion thread

    Lucifer goes with YHVH and Satan too. Besides that pretty much. However, Soul Hackers are just weaker to the protags on P3/P4, they're stronger than any party member...Not to mention they have the potential to take down Beelzebub and so forth. But yeah

  9. Shin Megami Tensei Discussion thread

    Satan is God tier, pretty much comparable to YHVH. He went full DBZ Androids on YHVH at the Law Ending of SMT II, helping Aleph to kill his creator.

  10. Shin Megami Tensei Discussion thread

    Yep, and then we got the low tier stuff from Persona 3/4, Soul Hackers. (Even though they can be really higher, but since it isn't really canon well...)

  11. Shin Megami Tensei Discussion thread

    Same here. I'm positive that those three are vastly superior to Michael and the Archangels too so...Yeah 2-A sounds fine to me.

  12. Shin Megami Tensei Discussion thread

    Yeah, Asura is definitively weaker than the Hindu Trimurti. And Asura from SMT 1 actually revealed to be Virochana/Daichi Nyorai in Raidou Kuzunoha 2, one of the 5 Buddhas of wisdom...Who are just a representation of the 5 aspects of Buddha(Vishnu) he should be lower, yep.

  13. Shin Megami Tensei Discussion thread

    I guess yeah, but their powers are from the Brahma(DDS) powerscale...Which is kinda ambiguous since he pretty much kept Satan and other strong beings kinda sealed. (Since they were copies, nobody really knows how strong they really are) So the Hindu gods are...Kinda complicated to tier, their...

  14. Shin Megami Tensei Discussion thread

    Not really, the Devil Ring just allows to open a door protected by the angels in SMT 1. Similar how Masakado did in the door from Naraku in SMTIV. In Law Path, you pretty much do the same, except it's called "Angel Ring", to open a door protected by the Demons. You don't need those items to...

  15. Shin Megami Tensei Discussion thread

    "He is sometimes referred to as the prince of accusers and inquisitors, with powers to rival that of the great demons Bael and Beelzebub" Nocturne said that Metatron was just above Beelzebub in power, since they're pretty much each other equivalents, Beelzebub is Lucifer's right hand uhhh...

  16. Shin Megami Tensei Discussion thread

    Hiroko starts at Law, unlike Yuka(SMT1 Heroine) who is Neutral from start to beggining. since she is part of the Knight Templars, a radical Law association. So yeah, that's why i put her on Law.

  17. Demi-Fiend vs Demiurge

    He defeated various of his aspects, Kagutsuchi, Metatron and the four archangels. Probably, Lucifer practically made him his ace card against YHVH's during TDE, since he was preparing him for taking "The true enemy" (YHVH) down, note that this is Full Demon Demi-Fiend too.

  18. Demi-Fiend vs Demiurge

    Demon Form Lucifer is said to be as stronger as YHVH. While fused Demiurge is just "considered to be approaching to YHVH's former glory" I don't think it would be an stomp by any means, but Demi-Fiend still wins here. I mean, Kyouji got rid of the Demi-Urge and he isn't as strong as...

  19. Demi-Fiend vs Demiurge

    I'd go with Demi-Fiend here. Lucifer>Demiurge...So yeah.

  20. Shin Megami Tensei Discussion thread

    Well...Depends on the game really. He is Neutral in most of his appearances, but he has been Law and Chaos too so... You might wanna go with Neutral.

  21. Shin Megami Tensei Discussion thread

    I see, then it's good. Nice Baal page btw Also i made a Maya page yesterday guys. I plan on making Naoya (P1 MC) today,i got everything but the Tiering. Any suggestions? I was thinking on him being 6-A or higher since he pretty much defeated Nyx like P3MC in the Snow Queen quest. But during...

  22. Shin Megami Tensei Discussion thread

    Regarding Ishtar, i think she would be around 2-C alone since she isn't more powerful than the Hindu gods(At least in SMT, i don't know anything about Catherine or whatever that game is called lmao) and since Astaroth is comparable to Beelzebub who is just below Metatron in terms of power...

  23. Shin Megami Tensei Discussion thread

    Oh nice Arena look. I can do the rending so i guess i'll use that one, thanks Magi~

  24. SMT protagonists battle royale

    Yeah, somebody needs to close this thread. And welp, i can use this since i've been using pretty much only official art from the games, and since P1 didn't really got the P2 treathment well...

  25. SMT protagonists battle royale

    Nakajima and Yumiko are up~

  26. SMT protagonists battle royale

    Oh, now i know what you meant. There's a coma there...So yeah. I meant that i was planning to make Naoya (Persona 1 MC) and Maya Amano, not that Maya was the Persona 1 MC.

  27. SMT protagonists battle royale

    Maya is Persona 2:Eternal Punishment MC, yeah. But, she is different since you can't name her. She still retains her basic components from Innocent Sin. Hell, Atlus wanted to let her speak instead of being a Silent MC.

  28. SMT protagonists battle royale

    And nope, not a word from Atlus regarding Final localization.

  29. SMT protagonists battle royale

    Actually, i was thinking on making a profile for Nakajima and Yumiko, since they're quite something. I've been making some missing SMT MC/Heroine profiles, i also plan to do Persona 1 MC, Maya Amano. I might make Nakajima/Yumiko during the weekend. It would be cool if someone made Serph and...

  30. SMT protagonists battle royale

    Yep i guess that would be better. For both Nanashi and the Flynn upgrade.

  31. SMT protagonists battle royale

    Also, do you guys think i should make a Nanashi profile? I got quite a few info about him compiled, soo yeah, but dunno if we should wait until the game gets an english version or something.

  32. SMT protagonists battle royale

    Sounds good to me. Funny, there was a rumor going on about Demi-Fiend being in SMTIV Final, that if it was true it would put him pretty much equally with Flynn and Nanashi. But looks like it was fake. Anyways, Pony tailed samurai wins this ~

  33. SMT protagonists battle royale

    I just saw that on a Facebook SMT Group, it's gorgeous! Welp then this goes to Flynn~ I wonder if he can't hold against Hibiki (I really doubt it lmao) Buuuut, ponytail samurai wins, shall we close this then?

  34. SMT protagonists battle royale

    Uhhh yeah, we pretty much agree that we were gonna leave this thing until Final comes out in English. So yeah gotta wait until then.

  35. SMT protagonists battle royale

    ^ So did pretty much everyone in the list.

  36. SMT protagonists battle royale

    Is not an Army. It's just YHVH's new representation. Ehhh name it "Design" if you want. It's only one entity like in SMT II

  37. SMT protagonists battle royale

    I don't really know to be honest, i spoiled me some vague yet revealing stuff. And that was in only one route (there's 4 again), so let's hope so.

  38. SMT protagonists battle royale

    I just spoiled me some SMTIV Final. I'm just gonna say something here, Nanashi and Flynn are now on Aleph level. And yeah Kazuya gets rekt easily, he did beat Beelzebub too but, ehh, pretty much everyone in the list did too.

  39. Dante (SMT) vs Raidou Kuzunoha The XIV.

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Dante_(Shin_Megami_Tensei) Alright SMT! Dante page is up, can someone close the thread and add the respective results? Thanks.

  40. SMT protagonists battle royale

    I put Demi above Abel because he pretty much did the same without even being Full Demon. He also defeated Kagutsuchi, Beelzebub, the 4 archangels and Lucifer(in a "test"). Full Demon + Pierce should be stronger than Abel. Sadly, Abel is shown to only be able to summon 2 demons at the time, even...
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