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  1. RothX

    Can we make assumptions about a species based on the act of one?

    Well, if they can, I hope they do soon.
  2. RothX

    Can we make assumptions about a species based on the act of one?

    Just to summarize the discussion so far, we're discussing whether or not helpers are more powerful than their normal enemy counterparts. My argument is that we clearly see this in game, where helpers are roughly comparable to Kirby, and can defeat the enemy versions of themselves in a single...
  3. RothX

    Can we make assumptions about a species based on the act of one?

    Well, could you at least then elaborate on the other side? Because right now, I'm not getting why having contradictions is better than making reasonable inferences (especially when I feel like that already happens).
  4. RothX

    Can we make assumptions about a species based on the act of one?

    Fair enough. I know outliers are common, but that doesn't mean they're good. It seems like they shouldn't remain if they can be easily explained, but I understand being fed up with this thread. Well, hopefully, some other people will weigh in on this. I'd like to hear some other perspectives.
  5. RothX

    Can we make assumptions about a species based on the act of one?

    All of your explanations and justifications make perfect sense. And it makes more sense that the game mechanics is less a strict policy and more of a rough guideline. But on the other hand, it leads to these pages being more opinion based then they probably should be. I have to disagree that...
  6. RothX

    Can we make assumptions about a species based on the act of one?

    >"This are Game Mechanics. But would be the case if we have at least one statement saying that they do become stronger." Well, I guess this is the key here. I wasn't aware of this policy. This kind of invalidates my whole argument. I guess if this is your policy, then I agree with this ruling...
  7. RothX

    Can we make assumptions about a species based on the act of one?

    I feel like there's some kind of contradiction here... The helpers are clearly higher than 5A. In Super Star, you could have Kirby sit in the corner while a helper beats Marx, who is 4A. Further, the helpers are explicitly more powerful than the regular enemies. Say you summon a Knuckle Joe...
  8. RothX

    Can we make assumptions about a species based on the act of one?

    Well, this all seems reasonable, but I have an issue with this: You're implying that it's silly to say the helpers are more powerful than their normal selves when that's the exact assumption this wiki uses. Every enemy that can be summoned as a helper, such as Knuckle Joe, says "5A normally, 4A...
  9. RothX

    Can we make assumptions about a species based on the act of one?

    So, looking over the pages for different Kirby characters, I'm noticing that a lot of characters get scaled from Knuckle Joe, who gets 5A from cracking Popstar in Megaton Punch. Knuckle Joe is almost certainly a species, not an individual being. We have no reason to believe that a standard...
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  10. RothX

    Questionable Level of Regenerationn

    Don't affecting Kirby isn't really a fact to deny the recreation of his body when we see the thrown parts of it blow up. I'm not too sure what you mean by this. I think you made some typos, and I'm not sure what you meant to say. Now, just in general, remember to add the topic of any verse when...
  11. RothX

    Questionable Level of Regenerationn

    As much as it pains me to propose a Kirby downgrade, I see no good justifcation for Kirby having Low-High Regenerationn. The current justification comes from this gif, which shows Kirby throwing off a piece of his body, then exploding and fully regenerating. I can't really see how you could...
  12. RothX

    Question on the tier for a character I'm creating

    So, I still think the pods are 5 dimensional, but they could be 6 dimensional. A dimension just adds two new opposing directions. So space is 3D, because there are 6 main directions. Every other direction is just some combination of the main 6. If you add time, you get 4 dimensions, because we...
  13. RothX

    How to tier characters that are beyond dimensional, but not particularly powerful?

    The description for tier 1A says: "a being or an object which is outside and beyond all dimensions of time and space. This is something completely formless, abstract, metaphysical and transcendental." It seems perfectly reasonable for such a being to satisfy those requirements while not being...
  14. RothX

    Question on the tier for a character I'm creating

    It sort of depends on the exact nature of your verse. I'd say it's at the very least 2A, but very likely at least 1C. He could be as high as 1A, but I doubt it. It sounds like you're going for a 1A character, but think about the nature of your verse and if the character is really beyond...
  15. RothX

    Multiversal Scale Low Dimensional Attacks

    Right, so I guess that falls into the "characters with an infinite degree of 3-dimensional power" part of that. Obviously I don't have the authority to say what should change on such an important page, but I think it might be worth elaborating on that point in the description of high 3A. After...
  16. RothX

    Multiversal Scale Low Dimensional Attacks

    So, just to be completely clear, you are saying that a character with this attack power would be tier 3A?
  17. RothX

    Multiversal Scale Low Dimensional Attacks

    I was reading through this tiering system, and I think there is a type of attack that, as the tiers are described here, doesn't really fit into any tier. And those are attacks that are beyond universal in scale, but are only 3-dimensional. For example, say a character could destroy all the...
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