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  1. Twellas

    UU - Early Series AP Upgrade, Page Updates (Part 1)

    No it doesn't in this context, Isshin still would have needed to exhert enough force to destroy Victor's body, we're not talking about a weapon like Rebellion that has a certain AP, Unbreakable doesn't give stuff AP, just makes them durable No evidence it did, quite the opposite actually, we...
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    UU - Early Series AP Upgrade, Page Updates (Part 1)

    would you be interested? I redid the exact same calc that's on the wiki already but I used a car to pixel-scale instead of a building
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    UU - Early Series AP Upgrade, Page Updates (Part 1)

    She's fragging him with a strike, the durability of the weapon doesn't matter. No evidence at all that they are artifacts. And you know what I'm talking about, come on, UU is chuck full of scenes of Andy and Victor getting hurt by shit that's at least 3 to 4 tiers below what they are actuallly...
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    UU - Early Series AP Upgrade, Page Updates (Part 1)

    That was Fuko's unluck, not Top and Unluck is both pretty much the strongest thing in the verse and could be argued to somewhat bypass durability. Yeah no, durability doesn't work like that for characters with regeneration in UU, otherwise we'd have Isshin be way stronger than ******* VICTOR...
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    UU - Early Series AP Upgrade, Page Updates (Part 1)

    so being the galaxy doesn't make you galaxy level? creation feats now don't count for AP? Being stronger than a dude who is the galaxy doesn't make you galaxy level? Which is what makes the "the first ten are the most powerful" statement noteworthy I mean, that has nothing to do with the feat...
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    UU - Early Series AP Upgrade, Page Updates (Part 1)

    The galaxy comes out of his body with an explosion after a conscious effort that requires strain (even if he just "expanded it", he still did it consciously and at FTL speeds, so according to the Wiki's rules, it would just classify as galaxy level), he IS the galaxy and if he were to die the...
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    UU - Early Series AP Upgrade, Page Updates (Part 1)

    How is the dude who created the galaxy on-screen, the literal embodiment of the concept of "galaxy" not galaxy level? I agree that we could debate its consistency for days, but I think it's pretty ridiculous to say that Uma Galaxy isn't at least Galaxy level
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    UU - Early Series AP Upgrade, Page Updates (Part 1)

    I'm pretty sure that creating the galaxy (arguably every celestial body in the universe) with your own body should count as some sort of feat. I'd guess it'd be at least 1 or 2 tiers above City level Also not gonna mention Andy being able to throw a high five at Tops while he's running at...
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    UU - Early Series AP Upgrade, Page Updates (Part 1)

    I have a calc for Shen's crater in loop 101 that's Mountain Level, I put it on paper, might make a blog one of these days if y'all are interested in seeing it. And, uuh, are we not gonna talk about this one statement for the master rules that places them above Uma Galaxy?
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    Fist Of The North Star Revision Part 2 (Scaling and Multipliers)

    Ken is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay stronger than Jagi
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    Fist Of The North Star Revision Part 2 (Scaling and Multipliers)

    I don't think I agree with Raoh scaling to Kaioh, if he does get a Multi-Continental rating, it shouldn't be off of scaling to Kaioh but rather the nuke calc and the planet-destroying statements he scales to. Raoh just doesn't scale to even suppressed Kaioh, simple as that. I also think Ken's...
  12. Twellas

    Reid VS Kenshiro (Re:Zero VS Fist of the North Star) (7-7-2)

    also it's 1000% in character for Ken to completely hide his presence even to people with ESP comparable to himself and sneak his opponent, so unless Reid has some cracked ESP Ken might uniuronically just pull a Solid Snake on him and win that way lol
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    Reid VS Kenshiro (Re:Zero VS Fist of the North Star) (7-7-2)

    Listen, I don't know what's going on, but I can tackle some things that might impact the result: Speed amps and stuff like that won't work on Ken, aside from the fact that he himself has speed amps, in HNK even fodders can neg-dif characters who are FTE to them. Rofuu (a character who's not...
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    Naruto vs Kenshiro

    Musou Tensei is Hokuto Shinken's ultimate secret technique
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    Naruto vs Kenshiro

    Shew's ability to "see with his mind's eye"
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    Naruto vs Kenshiro

    You know Kamui, right? Well, MT is a jacked up version of that with none of the weaknesses, Ken kinda slips into some sort of parallel dimension (whether this is what's physically happening or just a figure of speech it's unclear) and he leaves absolute nothingness in the "dimension" he's in...
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    Naruto vs Kenshiro

    Skillstomp+Musou Tensei=gg
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    Asta vs Kenshiro

    I don't even know if Ken needs MT or soryu tenha, what's preventing him from just skill-stomping and one-tapping with anyone of his martial arts?
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    Asta vs Kenshiro

    in light of info we got more recently, Ken's MT is not automatic, it is, however, activated unconsciously, which far surpasses Ken's own perception speed. So it's not automatic, but as close as you can get to that in a speed equal match
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    Asta vs Kenshiro

    Musou Tensei, gg
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    Fist Of The North Star Revision Part 2 (Scaling and Multipliers)

    the only reason multiplier-chain was even brought up in the first place was as a way to ignore the higher-end statements in the series. I'm already not bringing up all of the Universal statements there are for the series, but if we're gonna ignore all of the verse's best feats/scaling then what...
  23. Twellas

    Fist Of The North Star Revision Part 2 (Scaling and Multipliers)

    If we take even just the 2 multipliers I mentioned and apply them to the nuke calc, we'd already get a multi-continental result (the nuke calc is 92 teratons of TNT, which is 5.56 petatons if we multiply by 60), ignoring the fact that Ken STARTS OFF multiple times stronger than Jagi to begin...
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    Fist Of The North Star Revision Part 2 (Scaling and Multipliers)

    and about the gap between Raoh/Toki and Ken during their first fight, in Raoh gaiden right before he was locked up in Cassandra, Toki can stop Uighur's charge with 1 finger, whereas Ken needed 6 fingers to stop the same attack. Toki and Raoh being approximately 6 times stronger than Ken at that...
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    Fist Of The North Star Revision Part 2 (Scaling and Multipliers)

    I, for one, realized that there's one possibly very large power boost mid series: Ken and Toki are equals Toki THEN goes on to press his Sekkakko (the movie shows Toki pressing the sekkakko right before the fight with Raoh, we also know from Falco's scene that the Sekkakko last a very short...
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    Fist Of The North Star Revision Part 2 (Scaling and Multipliers)

    We had this version of the nuke calc awaiting evaluation, this one also includes the cloud dispersion
  27. Twellas

    Doppo Orochi Prime and verse scaling

    you need to get the Baki knowledgeable members in here
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    Fist Of The North Star Revision Part 1 (P&A)

    I thought you got it already
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    Fist Of The North Star Revision Part 1 (P&A)

    I'm sorry to add fuel to the fire, but there's one thing i've been itching to have added: Pretty much every character's speed rating should include a "far higher via precognition and instinctive reaction", it's been shown numerous times that fighters as a whole can dodge and counter attacks...
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    Fist Of The North Star Revision Part 1 (P&A)

    Bump Please let's just put an end to this and move on to the scaling thread
  31. Twellas

    Dylan Dog Revision I

    This looks all good, I'm fine with having a different tab for the Twilight Zone stuff because it's objectively quite a mess to fit in with the reast of the canon, although I guess it's gonna cause some confusion in potential VS matches (but then again, he's unlikely to ever get any match so...
  32. Twellas

    Fist Of The North Star Revision Part 1 (P&A)

    I don't think the gas had anything to do with the mind manipulation, and regardless, Geira tries to hypnotise him again after ken starts breathing again and it doesn't work
  33. Twellas

    Fist Of The North Star Revision Part 1 (P&A)

    Some new stuff I found In one guidebook they ask an actual scientist to do some calculations in regards to some scenes from the manga. He calculated that the amount of radiation Toki was exposed to was 50 BILLION times higher than the dosage that would instantly kill a normal human (not over...
  34. Twellas

    Doppo Orochi Prime and verse scaling

    I don't think this can just be "applied" willy nilly, we'd need to rethink the entirety of the scaling for the verse
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    Doppo Orochi Prime and verse scaling

    yeah, and as I said, this scaling logic also applies as late as NGB and SoO, when Yujiro's character was well solidified. It might be time to tag some Knowledgeable members/mods to have this looked at
  36. Twellas

    Doppo Orochi Prime and verse scaling

    yeah, sure, but there's never been an official, canonical distinction made. The fact of the matter is that Yujiro has been matched and defeated in the past, the meta reason doesn't really matter until Itagaki goes back and retcons it. Also, the scaling applies even as late as NGB and SoO as I've...
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    Doppo Orochi Prime and verse scaling

    it's never outright stated or shown, but the scene directly precedes the scene where Kureha is introduced and Yujiro later says during the MT that he has "unfinished business" with Kureha iirc. It really can't be anyone else
  38. Twellas

    Doppo Orochi Prime and verse scaling

    ye I just posted this stuff because I didn't mention them in the og post, just for completion's sake
  39. Twellas

    Doppo Orochi Prime and verse scaling

    When you actually look at it, Baki really has DBZ-esque levels of powercreep
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    Doppo Orochi Prime and verse scaling

    more evidence of my "goalpost-Yujiro" theory: chapter 79. Oliva is stated to be almost equal to Yujiro (Yujiro would have torn Strydum limb by limb if he was wrong, he REALLY doesn't take too kindly to people claiming to be stronger than him with no backing), fast forward to chapter 183: here is...
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