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  1. Zeshinumi

    Look!! It's a Tifa page!!

    I will say, this whole time I was having fun...dunno about if everlasting would say the same
  2. Zeshinumi

    Look!! It's a Tifa page!!

    that is what choas said...ok? Are you guys quoting somthing?
  3. Zeshinumi

    Look!! It's a Tifa page!!

    @chaos I'm generally this critical when it comes to this kind of comparision, you shoulda seen the obsession I had with the superman/goku fight leading up to screw attacks 2nd post. It's a hobby i already ilduge in and have on youtube, but only just discovered this website. I enjoy trying to...
  4. Zeshinumi

    Look!! It's a Tifa page!!

    was talking about the everlasting not you thePerpetual XD
  5. Zeshinumi

    Look!! It's a Tifa page!!

    I am new here so I am still getting the feel of how things go, hence why i jumped around trying to figure how to dispute this. The main thing im trying to present was just that the FF7 arnt depicted as FTL, and the BF speed scale is poor evidence, care to explain what in my views are...
  6. Zeshinumi

    Look!! It's a Tifa page!!

    @theperpetual I first posted on the comments which was told to take to a forums, which i found this one and posted here. Admin in charge is who I was disputing with who eventualy said hes just going to ignore me. Then I asked how to dispute this on another admins page which i got start my own...
  7. Zeshinumi

    Look!! It's a Tifa page!!

    @ChaosTheory because I havn't been the only ****** who dissagreed with the Buhamut Fury speed scaleing? Also I thought disputing the theory of how strong each character is is the whole point?
  8. Zeshinumi

    Look!! It's a Tifa page!!

    Because they made a distiction of what a speedster looks like with Loz, abd artisitcly depict being fast if you use haste. How else do you show speed? You could take a distance they traveled in a known time, but what evidence is there of that. BF's attack? The one that could be described as...
  9. Zeshinumi

    Look!! It's a Tifa page!!

    suddenly there attacks like often depectied in various shonen jump cartoons, having a character openly express said speed, having the character dodge lazer beams and pointing it out, after image effects, or having the actual character run around the world multiple times. There's many ways to...
  10. Zeshinumi

    Look!! It's a Tifa page!!

    its quite simple, they are fictional characters, if a feat is not protrayed or at least accented it doesn't exist. If a feat is not consistently portrayed, then using an inconsistent feature which is loose at best to define a prodominent feature is in itself also inconsistent and poor defence to...
  11. Zeshinumi

    Look!! It's a Tifa page!!

    sorry, i should clerify, I'm not trying to say the character's are slow, I'm trying to say they're features of speed are never accented, indicating their speed isn't a defining feature
  12. Zeshinumi

    Look!! It's a Tifa page!!

    1. Sure, but doesnt mean FTL combat speed 2. except you can talk to them, and theres been scenes with bystandards, but never do they go out of their way to point out the characters are speedsters in any sence 3.what are you refering to? 4.In dbz, they spesificly point out several times the...
  13. Zeshinumi

    Look!! It's a Tifa page!!

    Ok, so if we accept there is inconsistency in fiction, then perhaps we should take what's consistent. They consistency travel places on vehicals, they consistently fight in a speed the viewer can see (which is comparable to how fast the enemies are), and there is no statment claiming they moved...
  14. Zeshinumi

    FTL speed in Final Fantasy characters scaled on Bahamut Fury

    Look, we can keep going back and forth, but the main point is this. Did BF or did he not move way faster then any of his attacks physically right before he started the exaflare? Could it be possible since he clearly could have moved faster then any of his normal attacks that he chose not to use...
  15. Zeshinumi

    Look!! It's a Tifa page!!

    I would agree that their stats are superhuman+ via materia augmentation (also based on some of their feats), but clasifying their speed as FTL+ just seems absured when you consider all the cutscenes and plot points of the game. FTL+ would mean the characters can get anywhere on the planet in a...
  16. Zeshinumi

    FTL speed in Final Fantasy characters scaled on Bahamut Fury

    1. That being so, in game he still get's hit by the bullets is just as comparable as zack dodging BF's attack. You can't take one and ignore the other, that's confirmation bias. On top of that i'm only talking about the speed, they clearly shown a representation of a speedster, and Loz was the...
  17. Zeshinumi

    FTL speed in Final Fantasy characters scaled on Bahamut Fury

    So this is steaming from the discussion about Tifa's page, but I wanted to stem from that because I have a feeling the discussion has been cloted by yang vs tifa stuff. THIS IS NOT ABOUT THAT. The main issue I have is the character's from FF7 being scaled to FTL speed based on a CG cutscene...
  18. Zeshinumi

    Look!! It's a Tifa page!!

    also wanted to point out visually buhamut's fury's flight shows evidence of spacial distortion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQWRAEVPVcc go to 9 seconds in, also parts in the beginning. The area around him is brghting and distorts the camera's view, which could indicat his FTL speed is more...
  19. Zeshinumi

    Look!! It's a Tifa page!!

    So...just gonna say, if all this logic is accepted as fact, you should add the average shinra foot soilder as a FTL planet buster because they shot and killed zack, they could hit cloud and any of the FF characters. Which also means the average foot solider is faster then sonic...according to...
  20. Zeshinumi

    Look!! It's a Tifa page!!

    it just seems like the FF characters were never displayed as speedsters. I mean if all the characters were that fast why are they ever hit by common soldiers or monsters? Is literaly everyone in the FF7 universe FTL? By your logic, zack could hit buhamut = FTL because of his flight speed (totaly...
  21. Zeshinumi

    Look!! It's a Tifa page!!

    I used Bahamut Sin as a comparitive to see how the company who uses this characters likes to portray said characters like how shiva and ifrit are portrayed. Bahamut is never portrayed as a character who flash dodges attacks, hes more too tankish to care and blasts you from above. I will also...
  22. Zeshinumi

    Should the SSJ2 and SSJ3 multipliers be used for speed?

    so..somthing i'd like to add, though probly doesn't matter because cartoons and physics dont mix, the ammount of energy required to go faster as you approach the speed of light infinitly increases to continue to increase your momentum. I mention this because what it translates to is if you go...
  23. Zeshinumi

    Look!! It's a Tifa page!!

    so...nearly a week an no retort, does that mean I've proven my point?
  24. Zeshinumi

    Look!! It's a Tifa page!!

    Also somthing I wanted to mention, which i sort o mention in my previous posts here, flight speed does not equal fighting speed in anyway. How fast you can move your legs is independent of your fists, and how fast a character can fly logicaly from that standpoint is indipendent of their limbs...
  25. Zeshinumi

    Look!! It's a Tifa page!!

    well my point is if there is visual scaling isses, then there could be time span scaling issues, which means the actual time it took for him to travel from point a to b is not exact, and speculation of his speed is just that, specualation at best. He's never shown using any moves that utilize...
  26. Zeshinumi

    Look!! It's a Tifa page!!

    ok, so i watched both the fights of buhamut fighting in advent children and a play of crisus core where zack fights against buhaumut fury....So first off I'm gonna point out somthing kinda major that's rather annoying to use the ExaFlare as a feat for speed. When BF flys out into space, he then...
  27. Zeshinumi

    Look!! It's a Tifa page!!

    Watching that cutscene....that planet looks way too close in scale to the main planet, though that's beside the point. My question is how does its speed in space = zacks speed fighting it on ground? That would quntify Bahamut's speed in space traveling, but if zack can beat him doesn't mean he...
  28. Zeshinumi

    Look!! It's a Tifa page!!

    So..i'm really curious, what feat and logic line lead to the FF7 character's being FTL+? I've played through the games and watched Advent children and animated shorts (granted its been a while), but not once did it seem to present any of those characters as FTL. Maybe supersonic or lighting...
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