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  1. Karutobi

    gokus speed should be upgraded to infinite.

    "Infinite Speed (Able to move indefinitely while time literally stands still, or to travel anywhere instantly. Teleportation does not count" did he or did he not move while time was stopped? im not sure what you are trying to say in the rest of your comment not sure if you typed it wrong or...
  2. Karutobi

    gokus speed should be upgraded to infinite.

    his immediate surroundings were stopped time he did not break out of it he moved in it.
  3. Karutobi

    gokus speed should be upgraded to infinite.

    he did not break out of it he was effected by it until he walked up to hit and then broke his energy ball. saying he didnt do something after he did it is beyond silly. also jiren scales to toppo and goku who one of which was able to shake an infinite space with his prescense the other with his...
  4. Karutobi

    gokus speed should be upgraded to infinite.

    then by your same logic you could say everything regarding jiren moving in stopped time is an inconsistency the writers didnt take in account when they gave him the feat. how would it only be resistance to time stop and not infinite speed? jiren has no time powers and he moved in stopped time...
  5. Karutobi

    gokus speed should be upgraded to infinite.

    explain how goku moving in the destroyed universe is an outlier as ive noticed this site writes of some feats as outliers while accepting others. explain in detail how the world of void falls in category 2. (im aware its probably been done before but im new to this site and couldnt find the...
  6. Karutobi

    goku (dbs) should be upgraded to multiversal

    why does he need to show it? this site has scaled the same way for other characters giving them listings to be able to do things theyve never done but someone else did. low 2c isnt generous it was confirmed numerous times they wouldve destroyed the universe with punches and it was confirmed...
  7. Karutobi

    gokus speed should be upgraded to infinite.

    no its exactly what she meant theres quite literally no other way to take her statement and regardless if it effected him or not he still moved thus infinite speed i cant understand how that would only scale to his ap since it was movement and not attacks he used to move which he would need to...
  8. Karutobi

    goku (dbs) should be upgraded to multiversal

    false as in dragon ball you can clearly see that all 12 universes are lined up next to each other in a circle (thus the distance between them is both evident and scalable) and one can even use a vehicle to travel between them and not only that but said scaling doesnt make sense. some universes...
  9. Karutobi

    gokus speed should be upgraded to infinite.

    the requirements for infinite speed are as follows "Able to move indefinitely while time literally stands still, or to travel anywhere instantly." "Characters who showcase the ability to move freely and naturally in a timeless void may or may not qualify for an infinite speed rating." 1...
  10. Karutobi

    why isnt goku (dragon ball super) multiversal?

    that makes no sense at all as they consider the bog feat as 2c themselves
  11. Karutobi

    goku (dbs) should be upgraded to multiversal

    im new to this site so maybe this has been done before and maybe im potentially reading the tiers incorrectly as well but heres why i think goku should be upgraded. to be multiversal it says you need to be able to destroy/create 1001-any finite number of universes correct? well im going to use a...
  12. Karutobi

    why isnt goku (dragon ball super) multiversal?

    ohhh my bad thanks
  13. Karutobi

    why isnt goku (dragon ball super) multiversal?

    merged zamasu is listed as low multiversal and even on that same page they state jiren>merged zamasu therefore so is goku. yet goku is only listed as universal plus
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