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This is the second Buttersamuri downgrade thread.
Let's start with Powers and Abilities list for Hank Hill
Superhuman Physical Characteristics - I agree with that one
Regeneration (Mid-Low, healed from large burns) Honestly I don't remember any of that but if the description is sound this...
I always thought we concluded that punching or kicking a massive object should not count as a lifting strength feat. But the Lifting Strength page clearly states "Likewise throwing or punching an object a certain height upwards can be used as lifting feats, as these would require greater...
We need a new tier (Low 10-C) of characters with AP of 0 joules. There are 3 reasons for that
1. Their level is negative infinity on the Attack Potency scale. The power difference between 10-C and Low 10-C would be the same as the power difference between 3-A and High 3-A
2. They are unable to...
I really don't understad something about Fujitora's AP.
Why do we only count KE of his largest meteor?
All of them are clearly a part of one single attack. Also they all move at the same speed in the same direction, meaning he summoned all of them in one move.
Let's start with the Lifting Strength.
Currently, all the characters are scaled to this calc which was rejected. Moreover, even if the calc was legit that would be a huge outlier because a 20 lb wooden box was described as "very heavy" by Phoenix himself, while that bust could easily be empty...
So sledgehammer in real-world is rated as 9-B. The 9-B baseline is 15000 J. In order to get a wall level strike a human needs to swing a 4.5 kg sledgehammer at 81 m/s which is impossible.
As you may still remember I made this thread awhile ago but I never cover how to deal with pulverization or violent fragmentation.
Take a note that I didn't find any source regarding the issue so the formula below is mostly intuitive though it makes sense from a mathematical point of view...
Our source: http://web.archive.org/web/20170322181309/http://www.narutoforums.com/xfa-blog-entry/because-fluttershit-sucks-and-we-need-something.34025/
Frag. should be based on shear strength on the material and v. frag on tensile strength. But our glass values are both based on its fracture...
The problem
If an object is destroyed as a result of some attack we calculate the energy output of the attack using the original volume of the object and the destruction value of the material the destroyed object is made of. According to Naruto Forums (and that's the only source we have), the...
It seems that the regular KE formula KE = 1/2mV^2 Ðüð░n not be used in case of expanding clouds (or any expanding mass for that matter)
The reason for this is that not every piece to cloud travels the same distance in the given timeframe. Clouds near the center of a storm need to travel a...
I'm trying to find any logical reason not to allow calculating kinetic energy using 1/2mV2 formula for FTL speed that would be consistent with our wiki standards and it seems I can not find any.
Kinetic Energy Feats page says: That is because the kinetic energy of an object, using the correct...
I invalidated the 5-A calc giving multiple reasons why KE can not be used. M3X seemed to agree with me as well.
Anyway I really hate that I need to create a new CTR thread for just that but whatever
I made a visualization of our Attack Potency Chart
Note: This is a logarithmic scale. One scale division is 1 decibel (1.259 times stronger than the previous mark). 10 scale divisons or the distance between two long successive marks is 1 bel (10 times stronger than the previous long mark).
Varies from Below Average usually to Wall level at his peak (Survived the destruction of Bikini Bottom and can harm others who have as well)
Okay that seems like a legit durability feat but what I can't understand is how do you scale AP from variable durability?
Those are the current angular size formulas we use:
Angle: 2*atan(tan(70/2)*(object height/panel height))
Distance: object size*panel height/[object height*2tan(70/2)]
Size: 2tan(70/2)*distance*object height/panel height
These formulas are correct HOWEVER "tan(70/2)" means tangent of 35...
The "+" is currently used when the Attack Potency has been calculated to be greater than the arithmetic mean of the high end energy level and low end energy level of a particular tier.
However since in fiction we're usually dealing with multipliers geometric mean of the high and low ends would...
This is pretty straight forward. Why do we use pulverization of rock value for such feats? Where is no way some soil can be as hard as pure rock.
I think found the table we can take destruction values from:
Fragmentation: (shear strength of meduim clay)
0.05 - 0.1 J/cm^3
Pulverization...
I'm pretty sure Ainz should be 7-B physicaly because he was shown to be physicaly superior to both Entoma and Evileye or am I missing something?
Also his lifting strength is absolutely superhuman because he was able to crush Clementine in his arms
There is a huge problem with clouds measurements using distance to the horizon.
We currently use distance to the horizon to calculate volume of the clunds in cases when the clouds obscure the entire sky. The distance to the horizon is determined by this formula:
S = Sqrt((R+h)^2 - R^2)
Where...
So the low end of this calc has been accepted. What characters should be scaled from it?
Anyway I suggest Oven, Daifuku, Perospero, All Vinsmokes, base Luffy and possibly Carrot.
First of all Armin Arlert
Large Town level (His transformation alone yields 157 kilotons).
While I agree with the calc I don't think we can scale his stricking strength from it.
So I suggest "City Block level (should be comparable to Colossus Titan) with Large Town level environmental damage...
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Cooltaff12/Satan_Destroys_the_Moon_Feat
1.28 Yottatons is still Planet Level, Planet level+ starts from 1.41 yottatons
I'm okay with 5-B Saitama however I don't think we have a reasonable justification for his tier.
"Saitama stated that he could destroy the planet in the webcomic"
This statment was not supported by any databook (correct me if i'm wrong). His best feat so far was only 351.3 pettatons and it's...
Building level (Can destroy about 15 m^3 of rock) Large Building level when charged by lightning (Can destroy 33 m^3 of rock)
How is that a building level feat?
Regular:
(Fragmentation) 15000000*8=1.2*10^8 jouls=28.68 kg - Small Building level
(Voilent Fragmentation) 15000000*69=1.035*10^9...
Durability: Multi-Continent level (Withstood Saitama's moon jump)
Saitama's moon jump feat is 5.059*10^24 jouls or 1.209 pettatons which is only Continent level. It's not even close to Multi-Continent baseline
Here's the calc...
Soldier has the weapon called Valve Rocket Launcher. This is not a joke weapon it's real TF2 rocker launcher owned by Robin Walker.
I don't know how powerfull Soldier's standart rocket launcher is but VRL has +1009900% damage bonus.
I don't get it. What's the difference between a large island and a small country. I always though that a large island need to be at least Irland sized and a small country should be at most as big as Czech Republic. Anyway what is an avarege large island and an avarege small country according to...