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  1. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    The main issue with scaling everyone in speed based on spellcards is that it leads to massive outliers. It means junko and hecatia = marisa = cirno = fairies of light = normal humans (Including some from outside world) Theres no way youre expecting me to believe that infinite speed is valid when...
  2. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    Fyi imma not reading through every single bit of a post thats longer than the sanzu river when i deliberately underpay komachi for the ride 😐 The reason im questioning is 1. thats sorta scaling to reality warping but ig thats sometimes accepted like with alien x? but 2. If i use high 3-A...
  3. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    Idek if destroying a space then reforming it with presumably density manipulation even qualifies for infinite speed under wiki standards so hell if i know. Thats assuming she even fragmented it on a level that the pieces of heaven were all scattered infinitely far away.
  4. RethPo

    https://vsbattles.com/threads/touhou-infinite-speed-issues.173769/page-4#post-6831333 Sorry to...

    https://vsbattles.com/threads/touhou-infinite-speed-issues.173769/page-4#post-6831333 Sorry to drag you back to this. But i made a post summarising the arguments and wondering if you could give your thoughts on the questions at hand? Just so we can speed the thread up, thanks in advance
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    https://vsbattles.com/threads/touhou-infinite-speed-issues.173769/page-4#post-6831333 Sorry to...

    https://vsbattles.com/threads/touhou-infinite-speed-issues.173769/page-4#post-6831333 Sorry to drag you back to this. But i made a post summarising the arguments and wondering if you could give your thoughts on the questions at hand? Just so we can speed the thread up, thanks in advance
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  6. RethPo

    https://vsbattles.com/threads/touhou-infinite-speed-issues.173769/page-4#post-6831333 Sorry to...

    https://vsbattles.com/threads/touhou-infinite-speed-issues.173769/page-4#post-6831333 Sorry to drag you back to this. But i made a post summarising the arguments and wondering if you could give your thoughts on the questions at hand? Just so we can speed the thread up, thanks in advance
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  7. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    @Armorchompy @Planck69 @Maverick_Zero_X @DarkDragonMedeus I know this wont ping but this is so you can find the post. So heres an easy as possible summary on all the arguments besides the ship because we seem to have let go of that at this point For starters i brought up the ftl range feats...
  8. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    I agree with this. Eh maybe. Id rather not go into every single minute detail at this point and try getting the staff whove commented and giving them an easy rundown a bit later on the arguments and come to a conclusion since they know all the wiki standards. This threads been going for too...
  9. RethPo

    The thread is a pain in the backside to get moving and go anywhere though and's reaching...

    The thread is a pain in the backside to get moving and go anywhere though and's reaching stonewall territory. You think itd be worth it to just tag the staff and give them a quick rundown soon? If tagging staff works that is...
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  10. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    Funny you should bring up impossible spellcard. Because spellcards such as remillias literally use speedblitzing and making danmaku insanely fast to become undodgeable. And no. Basic common logic dictates that you need to be in the same area of speed to be dogeable. Otherwise why even make a...
  11. RethPo

    Sans should be multiversal through and through for "surviving" that last hit for a few seconds...

    Sans should be multiversal through and through for "surviving" that last hit for a few seconds obvi But yeah that was a long time ago, though sans still gets exaggerated in matchups from what ive seen. Tbh i kinda stopped caring much about battleboarding long ago unless its to mess with some...
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  12. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    Posts like this makes me wish this forum had a better image posting ui Okay so she was putting them through a trial. But this wasnt related to the river and it sounds like she wanted them to actually meet with kutaka instead of making the river almost inaccessible soooo... Throws a danmaku...
  13. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    Also for the speed thing. Spellcard fights need to have their attacks dodgeable as part of the rules so yes, characters can and would hold back their speed in non serious fights. To make this thread easier, would it be better for me to make an quick and easy to understand summary for the staff...
  14. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    Why would eiki put them through trials when shes already approved for them to go through? This is seeming pretty headcannon and assumption based. She literally contacted komachi calling her a slacker after her fight with the protagonists. She obviously contacted her when it was already too...
  15. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    Like i said though, eiki approved it so why wouldnt she just contact komachi to make the river more passable? Thats like a manager of a building approving for someone to enter a room and not asking security to lend them the keys
  16. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    Fair enough. Idk whats gone on the past few years so i cant say much on that front lol
  17. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    Also why does opposition on this thread seem to act like the wiki hates infinite speed and make a big deal about it as if were nuking it entirely when were not? A lot of this just feels like stonewalling at this point.
  18. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    "The river is infinite by default unless proven otherwise" "Oh no, proof. Um, actually it completely varies depending on the mood of komachi" Dude. Youre completely contradicting yourself. If something as uncontrollable as mood can affect the rivers size then theres no reason to call it...
  19. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    The yama allowed it Ill prolly make a very short response to angelz later on the bits that matter. But imma feeling the side effects of mah jabs right now so, laters.
  20. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    Even if staff agree on the attempted "downgrade"? Gl with that i guess.
  21. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    I see no reason for that dialogue to not say "is infinitely fast" or even "faster than everybody else" if the series sees them as infinite. And the broad range argument would work for not contradicting things like interstellar travel. But when youre in an entirely different realm of speed like...
  22. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    For the sakuya one well. Why would they even call sakuya "faster than the speed of light" as if it were something impressive or even noteable when she (and supposedly everyone else) are infinitely faster? Thats like me looking at a cheetah and saying "theyre faster than a snail, dang". Same way...
  23. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    Okay so since this is still going on im just gonna bring up consistency: Infinite speed: Sanzu river feat which is mostly just implied to be infinite when they cross it Infinite corridor feat (more questionable and speculatory though still implied in dialogue to be "endless", staff agreeing to...
  24. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    Ah okay got it. I can see why 80% of ctrs never reach a conclusion.
  25. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    Thats why i highlighted them. if two staff agree and two staff disagree, then the user count takes priority. At least i assume thats how it works anyway idk :/
  26. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    Asked jinsye on dc. He votes mftl, possibly infinite
  27. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    Im just gonna tally the votes for now Agree with infinite (9): Topaz404, kirbonic pikmin, quibster, shiroiyo, sdjlakjh, angelzewolf, overlorddonnely, nothingtodebatewith, speedblitzer50 Agree with mftl, possibly infinite (10): deidalius, DaReaperMan, Maverick Zero X, Dark Dragon Medeus...
  28. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    Also just to add to the op. If were going with mftl possibly infinite, seiran and ringo would scale to rei'sen as well because moon bunny. I will agree currently with anybody below that being ftl possibly mftl
  29. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    Kaguyas profile does say "Created an infinite corridor which is composed by infinitely linking gaps in space-time together" and i remember a scan saying exactly that too which... could be taken as an infinite loop?
  30. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    Fair enough if bad ends and affecting the story dont change that argument by wiki standards. But all ill say is that the series does tend to treat ftl as a big deal a lot (light attacks, marisas ms being lightspeed, watatsuki sisters being ftl deflecting that, sakuya ftl statement, interstellar...
  31. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    The main gripe i have about the corridor is that it is done via infinite looping an initially finite space rather than an actual infinite space. If you have an infinite loop and you escape it, thats more of a feat of breaking out of it or having a resistance than it is somehow reaching an end...
  32. RethPo

    Touhou - Infinite Speed issues

    From what i see so far the op does make sense and i agree. Also didnt suika just destroy heavens canopy? Im psure she didnt shatter the entirety of heavens. And yeah the logic of suikas speed feat would make anybody with infinite reality warping infinite speeds.
  33. RethPo

    Your favourite characters are stranded on an island

    ...shelter. I doubt thered be any conflict. Jotaro kujo and aqua: i just wanted to torment jotaro. But this would be his opinion. "Good grief this b** is unbearably annoying. But her ability to provide clean water at least makes her good for something. With her being useless at anything else...
  34. RethPo

    Your favourite characters are stranded on an island

    Would characters that just dont need food or water to survive be given that limitation or no?
  35. RethPo

    genshin impact low complex multiversal/outerversal

    The most reasonable, logical and sceptical powerscaler. Agree for very ambitious reasons (this makes me outerversal too btw)
  36. RethPo

    Voldemort fights his rapey counterpart (voldemort vs zouken)

    I always thought it was more like having multiple different bodies with part of his soul with sakura just being the main one. You probably know but just incase, destroying zouks main bodies is still an incap win for voldy for the same reason why zouk and other chars dont have to hunt down the...
  37. RethPo

    The MUCH NEEDED Super Saiyan Multiplier Revision

    soooooo..... make him and vegeta 4-b with supercharged attacks so it makes more sense? If they can amp themselves mid fight that much then i dont see why it wouldnt be listed
  38. RethPo

    The MUCH NEEDED Super Saiyan Multiplier Revision

    Gonna be honest, i dont think perfect cell holding back is gonna make him get half his torso blown apart twice by somebody supposedly tens of thousands of times weaker than him even when bracing for the attack
  39. RethPo

    The MUCH NEEDED Super Saiyan Multiplier Revision

    Uh... it currently says on the profiles that master super saiyan goku cell saga is star level. While base cell saga gohan is large star level+ for being 100 times weaker than ss2.
  40. RethPo

    The MUCH NEEDED Super Saiyan Multiplier Revision

    Uhuh. So basically the profile technically lists rage boosted base gohan...... im also confused about ssj goku, since didnt he damage cell several different times? Yet hes listed weaker than base gohan at the same time.
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