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> If we go by file canon alone, there are no Swann avatars and 001-Swann is Low 2-C
What are you even talking abou? I'm not talking file canon here, I'm talking in general. Don't mix stuff.
Clearly you seem to be talking about a different aspect of Extended Canon than I am. Any SCP representing a writer of their own verse, is a Swann avatar.
That doesn't matter since he would still lose the will to fight his fellow Necroa zombie and they'd join an herd somewhere. And having prostate cancer doesn't prevent me from getting infected with liver cancer. Him "already" being a zombie is meaningless when they are different pathogens.
I don't see Resistance to Disease Manipulation of any kind on Tank's profile, so until proven otherwise, the Necroa Virus should be able to infect him.
No, it's because the formula that is used to obtain an explosion's s energy is the formula for a nuclear bomb's explosion, and only half of that energy is in the fireball, so you have to cut it in half for non-nuclear blasts.
With tier 4 and 3 this isn't an issue, because we use the inverse...
> Semantics, yes, but that still means your point is inheritly innaccurate.
Telling me I'm wrong isn't an argument
And, for Pokémon, it depends if you're using the version where the trainers are superhuman machines stronger than their own Pokémon or assuming they simply won't intervene.
The rule, however, specifically mentions cases like Pokémon to make an example and it has never applied to stuff like Bayonetta, where the summons are more versatile versions of the summoner as opposed to immensely stronger. So it's semantics.
> Not sure you noticed, but summoners have often entered battles themselves.
Superhuman summoners who can fight, sure. Dudes who are weaklings are obviously not entering the battle. WIS and PIS aren't a thing in a VS match.
> Just because you don't want to go in the route of what the rule...
The summoner rule doesn't apply to fights where the summoner is on the same level as their summon in AP and thus can fight & and it never has. I've made it very clear which types of summoners I'm talking about.
And, as an example, no tier 6 summoner is ever going to try and brawl a tier 5 in a...
@Antoniofoer
In-universe fights where a,say, tier 5 summoner somehow manages to survive close hits from much stronger people aren't going to be a thing in a neutral battle, unless you want to upgrade the summoner's durability.
@Somebody
You are acting like the summoner will be fighting someone. I don't think I have to tell you they won't. They will tell a non-invulnerable guy how to fight in order to do well against a foe that doesn't need orders to fight well.
Don't artificially make it seem extreme when it's not...
> What I don't understand is why you keep harping on the 1 exception left
Not one (SBA also gives some pure-hearted heroes a leeway to kill, something that affects their fights with characters who don't have the same limitations), and there are more. Even if it was a single exception, this...
It being "one stat" is completely irrelevant to the actual battle, as it affects the balance of the fight far more than all the other stats. The battle is decided by who has the more effective ability against the opponent. If you're MFTL+ and your opponent is MHS him being 1000 times your...
> Speed equalization is literally just one stat
The stat that matters more in a fight than anything else. It doesn't matter if you're hundreds of thousands of times stronger than your enemy if he can run a million laps around you by the time you even realize that the fight has begun. You will...
> Speed equalization is an exception, not the rule.
Irrelevant, since it's still a thing in the VS Battles system and a major one that has not been removed despite being far more of a change than summoning ever will.
Do the same thing and get rid of Speed Equalization and other things that are...
> That's 100% normal for every vs thread, why summoners would be an exception?
Because otherwise, most of the time their summon will get stomped by the guy who does not need to be guided to fight intelligently.
Why do you have Speed Equalization if it cripples many people's advantages in a vs...
> So essentially, lets just assume the summoner is shielded with an invincible, invisible shield that is resistant to all known abililtes, regardless of how haxed it is with the ability of reducing range to pitiful levels? The "small" rule here is a lot bigger than you think, and the words you...
> How exactly is a summoner making their summons protect them PIS?
Assuming that it will work when the ~tier 5 summoner is so pathetically weak and fragile compared to, as an example, the tier 4 their summon is fighting. Anything will kill them.
Just because it doesn't happen in the actual...
> SO the summoner can just, you know, make their summons protect them
Plot Induced Stupidity is assumed to not be a thing in a match unless the character has plot abilities. The sheer difference between a summoner and their summon's foe will make it borderline impossible.
> What summoners even...
I can not even begin to describe how much I disagree with this idea.
> By this rule's logic, his aoe would be heavilydowngraded to the point where he might as well be a classic DB villai
Or, more simply, an invisible, tiny forcefield covering a small area would shield a summoner from the...
It would mean that, if it was an actual concept in-universe and not an invention.
What you're looking for is better feats, which Hinata sorely lacks when it comes to the AP department.
It was never stated that Hinata got any power boost from receiving Hamura's chakra. It is a headcanon, like the terms "stronger chakra" and "higher output of chakra", which are never alluded to and are attempts to explain the unexplainable.
Case-by-case analysis is this wiki's major decision...
And 7-A+ Hinata is not reasonable. She has no feats on that level and I'm strongly against any upgrade. She has nothing, just speculation and attempts to universalize the chakra system.
Her only AP feat with Hamura's chakra is being unable to destroy the Tenseigan by her lonesome and needing to...
> It is the strength and purity of her chakra that attracts Toneri Ōtsutsuki
Further reinforces how inconsistent these fan-made "strength and output" labels are. This happened before Hinata got Hamura's chakra.