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Look, whatever. It doesn't make any sense, but not any less sense than anything else I've seen as I've looked around more.
If you wanna give a man who's concerned about bullets building-level durability, go ahead. It makes the site useless for anyone who wants to use it for anything but...
@zark2099 For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
IE, if you punch something really hard, it will move really far, really fast.
For example, when Hulk punches Thor in Avengers 1, Thor is thrown out of frame.
People are trying to argue that Quicksilver's punch has the...
You realize that doesn't make any sense, then?
You can't simultaneously base the character's power level on the physics of a SINGLE punch, while simultaneously saying that physics is inconsistent and we should ignore said inconsistencies.
If it's inconsistent, then we should consider the...
That's exactly my point. He destroys the sentries AND they go flying. Meaning there is precedent for the enemies he hits to go flying, so it's not a consistent convention through the movie that he doesn't send his targets properly flying.
Therefore, the fact that he neither destroys cap OR...
The fact that Quicksilver destroys the robots so easily is actually a point against the calc we're talking about. Look at the robots he hits; they go flying apart in pieces when he hits them, or smash into the ground, etc. Cap does not take major damage OR go flying. This is a direct...
The method used is based off of frames and distance moved, which is much easier to get wrong with movie making than physical force.
And they get it right in other parts of the same movie. When thor hits a robot, it flies away. When Quicksilver hits Cap, he doesn't substantially move.
Ergo they...
Cap's 9-A durability is also wrong. It's based on the calculation that an uppercut from Quicksilver has enough energy to destroy a building.
Only problem; it's an UPPERCUT. Meaning it sends force UP.
Observe: https://youtu.be/vvMJs3GjTls?t=30
Cap flies slightly upwards and then immediately...
That calc is unfortunately nonsensical. Firstly, we know nothing about the strength or degree of stretch in his webbing. It's perfectly possible the webbing is simply stretching as the ferry continues to move. Especially given that other pieces of webbing holding significantly less were already...
The current Captain America durability is based on this thread: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan/Quicksilver_punches_Captain_America_in_the_face_(MCU)
But this thread is completely bogus, for a simple reason; in the mentioned video, Quicksilver punches...
I don't believe he is correctly placed at even small building level.
First feat; slightly changing the course of a plane. This is not a major feat, a normal guy with a rope could do that. Control surfaces are designed to move easily, even when hydraulics have failed in an emergency.
Second...
I mean, we don't see cap busting down even walls. For example, when he boarded the ship at the beginning of Winter Soldier, he didn't kick down the doors, he used his shield to break the lock.
TBH, I think his stats are tremendously over-inflated. Trying to get them fixed atm.
I'm sorry, but that calc doesn't make any sense. Because despite anything else, Cap still doesn't weigh a colossal amount. Even assuming he weighed a thousand pounds, a punch with 400 million joules of force would send him flying into the wall at minimum. Instead he follows a short arc...
The listed feats aren't really consistent with what we actually know about the different characters.
Captain America was clearly nearing his limits in the iconic Helicopter Scene . According to the stats on that helicopter, that's around 3000 pounds, which is quite impressive, but...
In the...
In the above calculations, Bella is shown to have a strike capacity of at least 0.0257 tons. But that calculation doesn't take into account the fact that A: The arm-wrestling position is a complex position that is very inefficient at outputting force and B: Even ignoring that, it's still only...
Saitama doesn't need high level TK. His brute strength has been high enough to resist the full power of Geryuganshoop and Tatsumaki, despite having no TK himself.
Neither of Kyubey's victories were notably conclusive, and both had confusion as to whether simply outlasting constitutes a win when it's also incapable of dealing damage.
I think this is something we need to decide; the site is called Vs BATTLES, not VS 'who can run away the longest'. Does it...
Schrodinger never showed any ability to cause damage from inside the person's mind. Therefore we can't assume that Alucard can, either.
Most of Alucard's power came from his pool of souls. This is directly referenced in his defeat scene, where his level zero release is made up of the physical...
Mind reading is combat applicable. In the books, Eddie is able to use his mind reading to match Jasper, another vampire who has been in so much combat he's virtually covered in bite scars from head to toe, as well as having participated in at least one 'vampire war'. Edward holds even, despite...
The only reason Alucard survived the Nail of Helena was because Anderson got distracted by Seras enough for Alucard to make a sneak attack and rip Anderson's heart out, and with it, his offensive capability. He was already accepting his death before that took place.
That said, Helena's Nail's...
His insane power came from his stockpile of souls, which he had to kill all but two of in order to rediscover his individuality. So there's IS a good argument for why he should be less powerful now than he was before, he's lost the vast majority of his power stockpile. And he can't get more or...
We have no specifications for where they're fighting, so what gives the impression she couldn't acquire food?
Heck, with the capacity to run millions of Vectors simultaneously, she could feed herself and murder Alucard repeatedly at the same time with no effort.
The only thing she might die...
Schrödinger showed no combat capability, and neither did alucard with Schrödinger's powers. As far as we know, he's been reduced to normal human levels but with immortality. There's no way for him to win, he can't beat her durability.
As for level 0 alucard, his Regenerationn in that state...
The problem with ignoring feats and just taking the text at literal face value is it doesn't provide any context. 'Omnipresence' can mean anything from 'everywhere in this room' to 'everywhere in every universe in existence'.
Given that Alucard didn't instantly go insane from encountering...
Not necessarily immortal; assuming he has kept the entirety of Schrodinger's powers, then it's entirely dependent on his own belief in his own existence. He thinks he lives, therefore he lives. That means it's possible to convince him, potentially through extensive and continuous physical...
Given her range is planetary in scale, he most likely can't get away, either. He'd either be trapped in a constant state of being killed, or in one of running away.
Strongest version has no feats, so we can't say anything about him. So any vs would be meaningless.
In fact, we don't even know he's the strongest version at all.
You didn't specify which versions we're talking about. If we're talking story-start, it would go to Alucard. If we're talking story-end, it becomes a lot more muddled, because we don't really have any feats for Heisenberg-Alucard.
But if we're talking full-powed Lucy vs Restraint Level Zero...