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  1. Galiel_Elisaie

    Grom Hellscream, and possible Warcraft revisions?

    Grom was just an orc in WoD when he killed Mannoroth, they had to restrain him so that he would get an opening to kill him, if Grom anyhow scaled to Mannoroth there would be no need for rstriction .Even Mannoroth implied that everyone Grom brought he did just to watch him die, meaning that it...
  2. Galiel_Elisaie

    Grom Hellscream, and possible Warcraft revisions?

    My point is, Mannorototh has lower durability that attack potency, WoD cinematic proves that.
  3. Galiel_Elisaie

    Grom Hellscream, and possible Warcraft revisions?

    I know how tiering works that's why I am telling you that, if Grom scaled to Mannoroth why didn't he face him?He was just an average orc, they had to restrict him to kill him, if Grom really scaled to Mannoroth he would be able to repel his attacks and easily defeat him.Even Mannoroth implies...
  4. Galiel_Elisaie

    Grom Hellscream, and possible Warcraft revisions?

    As I said things are really vague, I might be wrong about things in that cinematic which doesn't mean that you are necessarily right, still there are other things in the story which contradict 6-C Grom.and I mentioned them. 1. Grom is captured by alliance soldiers 2. He was purified by shamans...
  5. Galiel_Elisaie

    Grom Hellscream, and possible Warcraft revisions?

    Thrall's hammer was deflected and as I said even if Grom broke his glaive he didn't overpower Mannaroth, what makes you think that glaive has island level endurance(durability)?If Mannoroth was holding a wooden stick in the same way and I destroyed it with a swing of the sword would that make me...
  6. Galiel_Elisaie

    Grom Hellscream, and possible Warcraft revisions?

    Well I don't see Mannaroth blocking it with his own wing though things look a little bit too vague.However even if that was the case it would still be possible deflection whether he did it with hand or wing.But to me it seems like Thrall threw his hammer, Mannoroth deflected it with his hand and...
  7. Galiel_Elisaie

    Grom Hellscream, and possible Warcraft revisions?

    using your own force to deflect something?I mean how to explain it in words so I will just give a pic, and example of attack deflection.
  8. Galiel_Elisaie

    Grom Hellscream, and possible Warcraft revisions?

    As for Thrall vs Archimonde it's definitely not an outlier, it's just that Archimonde's attack potency is far above his durability.
  9. Galiel_Elisaie

    Grom Hellscream, and possible Warcraft revisions?

    Still, where the assumption that Mannoroth's durability equals his attack potency comes from?I rewatched WC3 cinematic and it looks like Mannaroth deflected Thrall's hammer, he was too slow for Grom which is why he hit him after all.A lot of WoW profiles need upgrade and downgrade.Plus idk why...
  10. Galiel_Elisaie

    Grom Hellscream, and possible Warcraft revisions?

    Also we should put his speed at least at superhuman and striking strength equal to attack potency= 9-B or 9-A.
  11. Galiel_Elisaie

    Grom Hellscream, and possible Warcraft revisions?

    Anyway there are many more WoW profiles to be added, upgraded and downgraded.
  12. Galiel_Elisaie

    Grom Hellscream, and possible Warcraft revisions?

    Btw I agree with this downgrade, Grom's page is poorly done with a lot of assumptions.As if no one really pays much attention to WoW characters.Also to mention that Thrall's full powered hammer amplified by magic was casually tanked by Mannaroth, yet Grommash kills him by striking his head.Also...
  13. Galiel_Elisaie

    Grom Hellscream, and possible Warcraft revisions?

    That's not so far from the truth, since WC3 Gul'dan raised Broken Islands from the sea, which should be at least high 6-B feat.Arthas, Illidan, Mannaroth should be above Gul'dan, idk for Thrall really.
  14. Galiel_Elisaie

    Madara Uchiha vs Sosuke Aizen

    Kyoka Suigetsu just shows illusions, however the reason why Aizen refers to it as complete hypnosis is because of his own skills.He uses those illusions to decieve oponents on a high scale, that's why it is called complete hypnosis and unlike genjutsu from naruto there is only one way of...
  15. Galiel_Elisaie

    Dr. Manhattan vs Thought Robot

    Here?No, not even close CA Superman is leagues above Dr. Manhattan, they do not even compare.
  16. Galiel_Elisaie

    Toppo vs Anilaza

    Still I don't see why editors put Toppo above Aniraza, Toppo is low 2-C here whle Aniraza is 3-A, not even high 3-A, this implies that Toppo is infinitely more powerful than Aniraza if not even more.So either is Aniraza low 2-C ike Toppo or Toppo is 3-A.I personally think that both of them...
  17. Galiel_Elisaie

    Toppo vs Anilaza

    Well I haven't watched the latest episode but best Toppo's feat is overpowering Golden Frieza who is SSJB Goku level, while combined strength of U7, around 5 SSJB level characters was needed to match Aniraza.So far Aniraza should be able to win this mid to hard diff.
  18. Galiel_Elisaie

    Yhwach vs Kaguya

    I am just saying how it is, seems like a lot of assumptions.However you missed the point.Dragon Ball characters' speed does rise equally with their strength, that was stated several times, Vegeta said that to Cui, Goku said that to Gohan... However I personally do not believe that Raditz is...
  19. Galiel_Elisaie

    Yhwach vs Kaguya

    That's a lot of assumptions...
  20. Galiel_Elisaie

    Yhwach vs Kaguya

    The most disturbing is the fact that both Soul Society arc Ichigo and EoS Ichigo are massively hypersonic+ as if Ichigo didn't get more than 8 times faster from SS arc to the end of Bleach.
  21. Galiel_Elisaie

    Yhwach vs Kaguya

    I agree, about Kaguya's speed she should be sub relativistic.And there are a lot of feats regarding Soul King's palace travels, distance and all that, but I suck at arithmetics and physics so I can't precisely calculate that.
  22. Galiel_Elisaie

    Yhwach vs Kaguya

    And even if Kaguya was faster I don't see how it matters, because of Almighty.
  23. Galiel_Elisaie

    Yhwach vs Kaguya

    If Femritters are around 1000 mach, Yhwach definitely is SoL, at least relativistic.So let's say that he is faster than Kaguya which is obvious.
  24. Galiel_Elisaie

    Yhwach vs Kaguya

    I know we had a lot of these disscussions, but I haven't seen one since Bleach revisions were don.What's your opinion now?
  25. Galiel_Elisaie

    Bleach revision for 5-B characters

    I couldn't argue any of this even if I was against 5-B Yhwach.Well done...
  26. Galiel_Elisaie

    Bleach revision for 5-B characters

    Which reminds me, the fact that any statement how Yhwach was going to destroy three worlds by disrupting the balance of the souls is absent goes in favor of Yhwach physically being planet level.
  27. Galiel_Elisaie

    Bleach revision for 5-B characters

    Soul Society is not completely populated, we have seen that multiple times...canon or not it was animated by Kubo and events from it mentioned later in canon material.Kubo animated it, and there are a few scenes in which SS is same size as earth.I highly doubt that Kubo made SS big as earth for...
  28. Galiel_Elisaie

    Bleach revision for 5-B characters

    There should be same amount of people in SS as there is in HM and Material World, that's purely about balance of souls.Plus I don't have a scan but it was stated how reishi is more dense than particles in material world.And even if you argue that Memories Of Nobody is not canon you can't argue...
  29. Galiel_Elisaie

    Bleach revision for 5-B characters

    Ichigo does not scale to him I agree with that.He stood no chance with his physical strength.He was caught off guard first time just like Gin caught off guard Aizen, it doesn't mean Gin was on Aizen's level because he pierced him.Second time Yhwach was powerless.So yeah new Bankai Ichigo...
  30. Galiel_Elisaie

    Bleach revision for 5-B characters

    From what I have seen it would make more sense as it was stated that cdisruption of souls was going to cause collapse of the universe.Yhwach was going to destroy three planets, not collapse anything.And as we said it was different from what happened when Soul King died.Also when Mimihagi stopped...
  31. Galiel_Elisaie

    Bleach revision for 5-B characters

    Did you get that impression of me?It seems you are wrong about that.
  32. Galiel_Elisaie

    Bleach revision for 5-B characters

    It was a picture on the same page he stated how he is destroying worlds, and as mentioned even Ichigo was harmed by it.It was completely different when Soul King died, there was no black reiatsu enveloping everything.
  33. Galiel_Elisaie

    Bleach revision for 5-B characters

    And years later last remnants of Yhwach's reiatsu was gone, who knows how long it took them to get rid of it, but if I remember correctly 20 years passed.In a newest canon novel mentioned it was stated that after Yhwach's death his reiatsu was still holding worlds together.So after the last...
  34. Galiel_Elisaie

    Bleach revision for 5-B characters

    Plus scans show that Yhwach's reiatsu was everywhere, that alone should imply that rection he caused was physical.
  35. Galiel_Elisaie

    Bleach revision for 5-B characters

    Maybe you can destroy three planets by disrupting flow of souls but you can't recreate them after they are destroyed and merge them just by creating flow of souls again.
  36. Galiel_Elisaie

    Bleach revision for 5-B characters

    Recreating SS, HM and physical world has nothing to do with flow of souls, that's my main point putting everything aside, that needs to be done physically.
  37. Galiel_Elisaie

    Bleach revision for 5-B characters

    I never implied that Yhwach is physically 3-A, I said that disruption of souls causes collapse of the universe, and Yhwach was not going to do that, he was just going to destroy three planets.
  38. Galiel_Elisaie

    Bleach revision for 5-B characters

    Imbalance of Souls causes collapse of the universe not just three planets.He was going to destroy three planets physically.However even if disruption of flow of souls was going to do it I can't see how any flow of souls could physically recreate three planets and merge them after destruction.
  39. Galiel_Elisaie

    Bleach revision for 5-B characters

    Ok here is the thing.Disruption of souls would cause collapse of The universe. Yhwach on the other hand was not going to destroy the universe by disrupting flow of Souls.That can be seen from scans given in previous posts, he was going to merge three worlds after he destroys them.Some would...
  40. Galiel_Elisaie

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 56: Low 2-C for everyone

    I thought of it in a way.Supervising something doesn't make it canon, Toriyama supervised movies too and Tite Kubo even animated fillers for his anime.I'd say that DBS is not canon to DBZ manga but to DBZ anime which is Toriyama's ideas+TOEI's just like DBS is.
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