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"Type 2 refers to characters whose existence may be beyond all dual systems within the nature of their reality, but not duality itself on a conceptual level"
Yeah... No.
What you're saying is mathematic manipulation and not dualism manipulation.
Have dualism got any effect to a character? I don't think so. It should be restricted to what he can do.
Protect him from harm and prevent any change on his being. Not to mention he resisted all Wukong powers excluding of what Greatsage said if that's even applicable.
Though, if I follow his logic, i can say it will let Sonic somehow win too. He can bypass ttpe 4 acausal.
@Greatsage13th We don't do that here. I mean, if the character doesn't demonstrate that power (even if it has sub-abilities), you don't get that power unless listed as default on the page.
What you're saying is the same as saying a character with Creation and Conceptual Manipulation that...
You don't manipulate resistance... You bypass it with Resistance Negation. The no brainer here is Wukong having ability that he never even demonstrated before.
There is no such thing of what you say on the Chaos Manipulation page though. It need to be reworded to fit your criteria of power...
So you're assuming that this duality manipulation is >>>>>> than anything in the same dimensional scope regardless the resistance?
That's wrong on so many level. Not to mention Wukong have never demonstrated this so called duality manipulation. Everything you're saying is simply assumption...
True, but Sonic himself resist fate manipulation. Unless you're saying Wukong power is higher than Sonic fate manipulation who is able to bypass Mammoth Mogul acausality type 4, then it won't works.
Ight, have wukong ever show that? How he gonna do that? 2A Sonic has fate and conceptual manipulation. While it won't work on Wukong because of NEP, it still works on Sonic himself.
Also which sonic? I'm gonna assume it's his strongest form.
Sorry to interject, but being erased from history says nothing about soul and mind being erased as well (unless that is the default assumption). As i said, even the default assumption of physical erasure from history will get you this regen. It's only low godly with acausality.
And, since this...
That's actually valid for regen because this explanation for high godly.
"The ability to regenerate after erasure from all aspects of existence, such as from history, narrative/plot, or conceptual/information destruction."
Erased across time = erased from history. Many characters have high...
For me, it's everything with the tag of hurt/comfort. I don't understand... Just why?
No offense for those who like that kind of thing tho. Just my personal preference.
Because what you're saying can be applied not just to concept lol. Anyway, I'm out from this discussion since there is nothing to discuss.
You could try making or doing revision for a character with your proof and it will be deleted anyway.
You still need to prove the "concept of existance" is conceptual in nature as stated in our Conceptual Manipulation page.
If it fits the criteria then it's fine, if not then no.
Sure, you can argue it is conceptual type 1 that transcends blablabla outside this wiki. But here, you need to...
No, wukong doesn't have conceptual manipulation unless stated on the profile. Chaos manipulation doesn't automatically give you conceptual manipulation and need to be specified.
Otherwise people would abuse the term to get conceptual manipulation.
You still need conceptual manip to erase someone concept though.
As for Digimon, I believe every holy and dark element users can affect being from dark area (NEP type 1) as stated on the previous revision. Not sure about NEP type 2.
All of that need context of doing so actually.
The default assumption for EE is erasing something physically. The erasing mind, soul, and concept part need extra feats.
Hence the "powerful enough".
That would be 11-C actually.
No dimension =/= Infinity dimensions. That's just weird.
Unless you're saying the place is beyond the concept of space-time which qualify for 1A, then yes destroying that will make you 1A. Otherwise no. Then again, it depends on the context as in the explanation...
With our current system, technically yes.
No. That will give you conceptual manipulation but depend on the context.
Not anymore. At least, a very heavy context is needed to support that statement.
I don't think it's about the animation, but rather the story itself. Many articles and reviews I read said the same thing; "the story is confusing".
And tbh, the story kind of dark and empty at first. You can't just slap a whole vn into 13 or so episode and expect it to be good.
"Omnipresence is the property of being present everywhere, whenever and nowhere at the same time"
I don't think so. Existing in all dimension =/= encompasses those space. Only that will grant him omnipresent. What you described is just another version of him I think.
Imagine a human. He...