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That not what it says.It says strength increases from 20% to 100%.Then it says speed goes up.It made a difference between power and speed and did not state 5x speed.So once again prove it goes up by a linear amount
@astralking7
That is now true.I can have greater leg strength than someone and be slower than someone.My sqaut could go up by 100 times and me be the same speed.
It's did not say speed it said power strength which is different.For one this would only bea 5x power amp (not speed) for the first gate it would not apply to the other gates.We also know the second or the first I forget gates main function is to replishness your stamina to 100 percent which...
Very irrelevent points beng brought up here.A huge derail.Kcm naruto got slapped by the bijuu yet the akatsui are capable of taking out the bijuu when they were alive.I don't know why sasuke or naruto saling would be relevant at at all.If they have feats on that level it's fine.It's fine if they...
Did you ignore the photo I sent?The dc wouldn't mean anything at all.It being smaller or him shooting it faster wouldn't inherently change the potency,that would be up for you to prove.I've already provided scans on how explains once you mastered bijuu bombs you can shoot several at a fast...
It's not an assumption he did tank his own bijuu bombs.You would never be able to calc that and if you did it would be flawed since he absorbed the attack and tanked it.So the result would be very weird and faulty at best.You also have nothing to even compare this bomb to so pixel scaling it...
Size does not mattr.We see [here once you master the creation of the bijuu bomb which perfect jincuriki have you can fire them rapidily as stated https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/552628787192528908/585560107526651926/Screenshot_2019-06-04_at_4.03.46_PM.png].So them firing relative bijuu...
We ca't eyeball it and say it 'was barely charge' that would be headcanon.Also do you have like a calc or anything proving he only took a fraction of the bijuu bomb.You are just eyeballing it and saying this.
As we already shown people can damage gykui who can tank his own bijuu bombs so it has been shown.Using body flicker requires using charka as well so it doesn't matter anyways.
Her Being scared of those version cloaked naruto is not an anti feat lol.That Naruto is capable of shooting bijuu bombs that can break through Rashmon gates.She was more so scared naruto was relying on kuramas power again and scared that he might not return to normal.That was also her first time...
By this logic Shikamaru could barely destroy a tree as an adult his shadow poession yet he could kill the kage who are mountain level.Dc does not = ap.Please prove that
@Ronnijuro
Your debunk is circular reasoning.Your debunk is that these people aren't this powerful because the people they damaged aren't this powerful because they damaged them.Clearly a logical fallacy.Once again prove that their destructive capbility equals their attack potency.Kakashi...
Yea I agree but this isn't for a speed thread we are strictly talking about ap.I refuted your bijuu being weak to physical attacks and your guy and kakashi point and your refutation something I already agreed with.@Ronnijuro
@Ronnijuro I refuted you and you failed to debunk me so nice try.Guy and Kakashi surprised the bijuu can destroy a mountain does not mean they are weaker than them.Kakashi and guys ap are that high because they can damage those bijuu.Their dc isnt that high but their ap is so them being...
@AstralKing7
Teenaged obito does not scale to minato ap wiset here is no proof of that.He did not tank a rasengan when he was younger.He only tanked one in a stronger form.One rinnegan onito would sclae to bijuu.Kakashi lightning attacks are capable of cutting bijuu tails and he was swapping...
@Damage3245
Ok they use charka in almost every attack and they have to generate that amount of charka and manipulate it to be that powerful so they would be that powerful.
@Ronnijuro
Charka does amp things like that.It's literally shown charka can make you faster if you can manipulate...
@AstralKing7
Ignored me again.Orange mask obito does not scale to rinnegan one and its shown in the series.Explaing here [how the rinnegan gave him great power https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516516001215545350/584419527929102345/image0.jpg].Stop bringing up war arc feats and scaling...
Obito went from getting damaged by konan with fodder paper bombs to tanking rasengans from kcm 2 naruto.That just shows he got vastly stronger with the rinnegan.
Ok your are talking about a stronger obito.We are talking about obito when he was a mere teenager and got destroyed by one rasengan.False equivlance, bad comparison.We also know Hasirama cells give you a healing factor as well.It stopped obtio body from dying when he was a kid and it even stated...
You'll notice that throughout the entirety of naruto they reference characters as being "as strong as biju" or "biju level", the only biju that is seemingly stronger than the rest is the 9 tails and that is specifically explained as the 9 tails hatred inside himself had grew for years which in...
@Damage3245
That would not mean they are inherently wekaer or stronger we know you need a certain ratio to fire bijuu bombs.You would have to prove they are any weaker.[1]
The bijuu all sclae to each other and that is scaling you guys have puth forth on this website as well.They are able to damage each other and fight each other.So once again prove physical attacks are a wekness to the bijuu.Saying "well such and such damaged them" is not a debunk.
@Damage3245
@AstralKing7
I adressed you earlier and you ignored me so let me repeat it again.Obito never damaged Minato in hat fight but minato messed him up really bad.Obito sclaes to him in speed sure howevr,he does not scale to him in AP.I need evidence of him scaling to minato Ap wise.
@Ronnijuro
Straight up headcanon, i'd love to see some evidence for the bijuu being weak to "physical attacks'.That does not make sense at all.If some one is able to cut bijuu with their physicalpower they are just that powerful."kakashi and guy freaked out'.They where fighting the bijuuu and...
Obito does not scale to minato in terms of AP.He never damaged him however minato did mess him up really bad.So this directly debunks Obito scaling to him AP wise.
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@AstralKing7
@AstralKing7
Sasori has the 3rd Kazekage himself as his puppet and he retains his abilities.He also killed him so he would scale above or to him.It's stated several times that the 3rd is the strongest Kazekage in general.
@AstralKing7
Shinki having iron sand does not inherently means he can manip your charka as good as others.He would not be as powerful as them just because he has the same ability.
Look buddy I know you are really invested in this but you are just wrong.The manga disagrees with you.I have already sent the scan of Yamato explaing the charka wheel.[1]
@LSirLancelotDuLacl
The manga directly disagrees with you.It is verbatim stated that Earth style is weak to Lightning.You are trying to rewrite and what was stated in the series and you are wrong.
@LSirLancelotDuLacl