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  1. VeryGoofyToddler

    Tier 0 characters in the new tiering system

    It is if my thread gets accepted.
  2. VeryGoofyToddler

    Tier 0 characters in the new tiering system

    How about nuking the verse…haha kidding. Just so we’re clear how are we going to handle the “Supreme Archetype” for Lovecraft?
  3. VeryGoofyToddler

    The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread

    Yeah, I will be Ultima's “ultimate” anthesis.
  4. VeryGoofyToddler

    Tier 0 characters in the new tiering system

    So, ANU accessing the statehood of the Amaranth didn't make ANU dissolve into the primordial force beyond Aurbis? I mean what happens when becoming one with it when you access a limitless state of being that unifies all things?
  5. VeryGoofyToddler

    Tier 0 characters in the new tiering system

    For High 1-A+ the precedence from what determines it is by ranking, correct? Say for example all Creation was embodied by a being via through what 0 could make, but that same Creation is preceded and transcended by a Void that holds it. Then the Void is the apex of the Cosmology and is High 1-A+...
  6. VeryGoofyToddler

    Tier 0 characters in the new tiering system

    If that's certain “thing” was always 0 just say in a different state of being, probably. If not then yeah it’s a disqualification.
  7. VeryGoofyToddler

    Tier 0 characters in the new tiering system

    I'm pretty sure these three were confirmed to be 0.
  8. VeryGoofyToddler

    J.M. DeMatteis(Marvel Cosmology Split)

    For anyone new here and need some more context then here’s a list of reasons I made. If it helps read this first then the OP, if it helps to digress the split more. However, Ultima did remind us to hold off on the rating.
  9. VeryGoofyToddler

    J.M. DeMatteis(Marvel Cosmology Split)

    The problem I have is with the embodiments of Creation/Dream. While yes, Maya is the illusive Reality hiding the True Reality and embody the Dream that God dreamed. The problems come with Eternity and he was replaceable when the cosmic axis shifted despite being the sum total of the Cosmos...
  10. VeryGoofyToddler

    Divine Creator (Marvel Comics) Profile

    Can we just close this thread and move on to the other one that’ll tackle these pressing issues and others.
  11. VeryGoofyToddler

    J.M. DeMatteis(Marvel Cosmology Split)

    I think some changes are still necessary such as the Nexus being the peak of the Creational hierarchy(funny enough that in a recent story, they changed the origin of Man-Thing Nexus but it wasn't written by DeMatteis). I think only Lords of Shamballa, Cleito, Franklin Richards, Job Burke, and...
  12. VeryGoofyToddler

    J.M. DeMatteis(Marvel Cosmology Split)

    I would question why being bestowed power by Monad grants 0 because that's very contradictory in a sense. In the sense that all Souls are God living in the dream would be the basis that everyone is 0 inherently, but only due to them being “God” as they lose any form or individuality when they...
  13. VeryGoofyToddler

    J.M. DeMatteis(Marvel Cosmology Split)

    I don't agree with this. Everything is metaphorical to suggest people can obtain God’s love and mercy because at their core “they are God.” However, becoming God would mean they lose their individuality because God is the only thing that exists as everything is just illusions and veils hiding...
  14. VeryGoofyToddler

    Grant Morrison's cosmology ( DC cosmo split )

    They shunned him sure, but they did not at all change Mandrakk’s physiology as he's still a Monitor.
  15. VeryGoofyToddler

    Grant Morrison's cosmology ( DC cosmo split )

    I was being sarcastic.
  16. VeryGoofyToddler

    Grant Morrison's cosmology ( DC cosmo split )

    Yes, because that's “totally” 1-A.
  17. VeryGoofyToddler

    Grant Morrison's cosmology ( DC cosmo split )

    That is not at all what the comics said. I think this is getting pretty ridiculous in the interpretation department. Yeah, pretty clear the misuse of 1-A and 1-A+ is quite evident. I'll personally with closing this thread unless other mods want to evalute more.
  18. VeryGoofyToddler

    Grant Morrison's cosmology ( DC cosmo split )

    Yeah, the hierarchy goes down and the painting starts with the main reality. I've mentioned this. This means the lower reality has to be 1-A, and that's not foreseeable in any sense.
  19. VeryGoofyToddler

    J.M. DeMatteis(Marvel Cosmology Split)

    Also, I wanted to add something. In the section that covers the gross/material plane, I said that there is an R>F hierarchy throughout the Macrocosmos. This is relevant because the Macrocomos is talking about Creation as a whole down to the Quantum Sea that connects everything and from where the...
  20. VeryGoofyToddler

    Grant Morrison's cosmology ( DC cosmo split )

    The question was: I pivoted my position as that's not how R>F works in the new standard we have. Thus none of what was presented in the “recursive structure as being a 1-A+ hierarchy” coherently suggests that the paintings are R>F based.
  21. VeryGoofyToddler

    Grant Morrison's cosmology ( DC cosmo split )

    Morrison didn't even write Teen Titans nor does any mention of hierarchy coming back just FYI. There's also no proof it's indestructible that's a presumption made that isn't supported by that scan. The Titan story has no correlation to Doom Patrol and any of how Morrison wrote the Cosmology even...
  22. VeryGoofyToddler

    Grant Morrison's cosmology ( DC cosmo split )

    No. At least not what's been already accepted of the Crisis Cosmology inclusion of Morrisons’ material.
  23. VeryGoofyToddler

    About the New Tiering System

    I think we can close this thread now.
  24. VeryGoofyToddler

    Tier 0 characters in the new tiering system

    A weird fantasy of someone named this sort of RPG-looking character after the Lovecraftian horror. It’s pretty much with the same premise but the visual(to which H.P. Lovecraft creations look cuter).
  25. VeryGoofyToddler

    Grant Morrison's cosmology ( DC cosmo split )

    Yes, you may.
  26. VeryGoofyToddler

    J.M. DeMatteis(Marvel Cosmology Split)

    I would say the entire CRT is a contrast to Cosmology considering the idea of everything being a dream with a dream from God being the conscience that brought it all together. J.M. DeMatteis takes his inspiration and route from a Hindu Cosmology which isn't related to Judaism much less the...
  27. VeryGoofyToddler

    Grant Morrison's cosmology ( DC cosmo split )

    I'll leave this conversation for the rest of the other party to chime in with their thoughts. This argument won't go anywhere at this rate.
  28. VeryGoofyToddler

    Grant Morrison's cosmology ( DC cosmo split )

    Self-awareness isn't 1-A nor is trying to find and fit ideas to lead to another painting. “Taking away idea” is meant to elicit what exactly? That's not 1-A. The painting exists in a downward hierarchy(So they don't upscale the current Reality). The deeper you go, the smaller the structure...
  29. VeryGoofyToddler

    Grant Morrison's cosmology ( DC cosmo split )

    Because there's none to take? Each layer is a downward hierarchy, so it's pretty obvious the real one would feel more real. That's not the basis of 1-A. This would be the equivalent of calling the Sphere 1-A due to the need to adjust one physiology to fit larger realms than from the base...
  30. VeryGoofyToddler

    Grant Morrison's cosmology ( DC cosmo split )

    The base Reality from which painting originated isn't 1-A, to begin with. Being a lower-dimensional being and jumping to a higher-dimensional existence is unwarranted for R>F since 1-A isn't dimensionally bound and is a disqualifier. We accept that each Earth is a 4D structure so how is that...
  31. VeryGoofyToddler

    Grant Morrison's cosmology ( DC cosmo split )

    No wonder. The analogy was off-putting and not at all connected to the story of the painting. I don't need to prove each layer of the painting is 11-A rather the OP would have to prove his point on how it’s 1-A because nothing is evidently pointing to 1-A.
  32. VeryGoofyToddler

    Grant Morrison's cosmology ( DC cosmo split )

    This is just plain waffling. Nothing is 1-A, and not close to 1-A+. The structure itself indeed doesn't work like R>F. I already have the implication that you don't know how it works. The space-time argument is baseless and that's not what's needed for R>F. No, Reality holds the painting and...
  33. VeryGoofyToddler

    God Nonexistent Physiology

    It's really a Hindu-based story. Where God is the ultimate/true Reality and he created everything as an illusive Reality so that each of his creations could find his expression of love through Maya(Creation) in order to dissolve back into his Oneness.
  34. VeryGoofyToddler

    Grant Morrison's cosmology ( DC cosmo split )

    If you don’t know how R>F works then I’ll just ignore this point. Then how do you expect to get 1-A? They aren't R>F. Every “part” isn't 1-A or R>F because they make up that part. There’s no hierarchy of R>F simply because there's a hierarchy of painting. There's no specific mention of them...
  35. VeryGoofyToddler

    The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread

    That means it’s 1-A due to a dream within dreams being counted as quality things as long as there’s context to support that. Yes, I was aware of that. Though BDE isn't the same as qualitative superiority or R>F, it naturally is Low 1-A which is the minimum for the Abstract with the other...
  36. VeryGoofyToddler

    J.M. DeMatteis(Marvel Cosmology Split)

    He means what of the OP and the information presented for the split.
  37. VeryGoofyToddler

    The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread

    Stuff like that with context counts as quality and not quantity.
  38. VeryGoofyToddler

    The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread

    I mean, for the most part, the old system specifically Low 1-A, 1-A, and High 1-A are all being pushed down into High 1-B+ since dimensional jumps aren't being accepted beyond the notion that they're just quantitative. This is funny because this would benefit a lot of verses that don't rely too...
  39. VeryGoofyToddler

    The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread

    I meant to say the first layer akin to the baseline, but yes.
  40. VeryGoofyToddler

    The Revenant Marvel Comics Discussion Thread

    Slorioth would be one layer in High 1-B+ if it truly does exceed the High 1-B Cosmology.
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