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  1. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    SMT has been the 2-A of 2-A verses a long time. I don't get where you all keep saying Low 2-C from. And it said beyond the scope/limits of time. Not outside. Do i need to keep explaining everything
  2. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    And the Expanse is said to transcend a dimensional level. So thanks but this stuff i've already heard
  3. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    How many times are you gonna say that joke line?
  4. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    The Expanse is literally higher d. Which takes higher d power to stop. And we both know fiction dosen't always take area of effect into account alongside destructive power
  5. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    Again. The Expanse is already a purely higher dimensional space which is higher dimenisional manipulation of course on the scale of whatever dimension size the structure is. I've explained this to you before
  6. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    Yes but Stephen means past present and future across the multiverse it's above all past, present and futures, and when did you bring up "world merging"?
  7. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    He literally said it's a place, specfically referring to one that transcends past present and future of space and time. It's simple
  8. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    The Expanse has been established as the world of demons long before Devil Survivor. Plus the whole series is built on scaling everything to each other so that point is irrelevant anyways
  9. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    He scales above the Kuzuryu who already scales above it anyways. And i never argued they could destroy it
  10. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    Yes. You should read more in depth before making a conclusion
  11. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    Ant. Read what i said about Beelzebub's profile. It's literally contrary to what Matt is saying
  12. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    They're feat is stopping the realm from passively absorbing and enchroaching the world which is sustained by their own power, and the fact their barrier is enough to not get swallowed by it shows they scale to the structure to some extent
  13. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    On top of the board, duh
  14. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    The profile says otherwise. You are literally just lying now. Or trolling. Either way this is getting very pointless
  15. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    First of all. It's Low 1-C. Second. I don't scale Beelzebub to Kagutsuchi. Neither does his profile. Quit arguing points no one is making
  16. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    Wait what are you talking about by demonstrably weak feats? And no one said them being higher dimensional made them automatically 5-D. And again. No one is saying demons like Beelzebub scale above Kagutsuchi. Pay attention
  17. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    Step- Forget it. It seems no matter what i explain to you you always somehow hear something different and take us around in circles. I'll simply just wait for others come
  18. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    How many times do i have to keep saying this stuff to you? It's represented as a higher plane and is said to be beyond the scope and limitations of a 4-D structure. It's simple
  19. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    Just cause that's the case for some verses dosen't invalidate this one's case
  20. Yvel_Atsly

    Grappler Baki Discussion Thread 3

    Anything we can go over at least?
  21. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    Matt. Just cause we're scaling lower demons to 5-D does not mean we're saying the Devas, Beelzebub or whoever exceeds Kagutsuchi in power
  22. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    I already brought up how that wouldn't even invalidate the feat's power anyways.
  23. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    I mean we're tying to make SMT characters Low 1-C and the Devas have been 2-A so that Low 2-C relation to infinity stuff dosen't even matter anymore
  24. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    What does Kagutsuchi empowering Vortext demons have to do with this? And even if it dosen't affect the multiverse somehow it's literally a purely higher dimensional structure so blocking that out means they scale to said dimensional level. And Ouroboros got it for being the abstraction of...
  25. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    You're gonna need to substantiate why that statement is the case
  26. Yvel_Atsly

    Grappler Baki Discussion Thread 3

    Just alot of fixing of Baki profiles. But in good news CRTs are now doable so we can finally do that
  27. Yvel_Atsly

    Persona General Revisions Part 1: Tiers and General Statistics

    I agree with this as well
  28. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    I've already mentioned the 5-D statement multiple times at this point. And what do you mean "Let's go back to canon"? And again, saying x level dimensional construct is a higher plane or state of existence is a common way to represent them which SMT does. It dosen't need to specifically use the...
  29. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    For the umpteenth time. Expanse is said to beyond the scopes and limits of time from a character with high cosmic awarness that's explained a function of the verse; Observation. Which it runs on and has consistent evidence that's been running on said mechanic since 1995. No there's no reason to...
  30. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    You're saying time travel dosen't make the statement invalid? But those are both literally your arguments for being invalid as you said it was "hyperbole and flowery langauge" for time travel. And as Tony pointed out being of a higher plane beyond ect ect is also a valid way to prove higher...
  31. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    Being outside space time isn't the exact same thing as transcending it as transcending is to say it is beyond rather than just being away. And we did literally post proof of a statement saying the Expanse is beyond the scope and limits 4-D cosmological structures but you (referring to Saga) and...
  32. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    Stephen has warped characters through time and space using his own power since he's very high tier so he dosen't need to use it anyways tbh
  33. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    The Expanse isn't a person so it wouldn't necessarily "See the multiverse as fiction" cause it's a realm. Not a conscious entity. And seeing something as fiction is not the only denote something being higher dimensional. As again it clearly stated that in relation to cosmological spaces such as...
  34. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    The Expanse isn't just a time travel medium but it's own space that births demons. Plus transcend is describe to go beyond the limits or scope of. And Stephen says the expanse goes beyond said scope of relation to time. And Milly has a point. You're both implying a certain statement type is wank...
  35. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    What implies that transcend somehow has a different meaning to it or is "flowery language"?
  36. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    I don't know about that coordinate for Attack on Titan but Stephen himself literally says the plane specifically transcends space and time and is said to be the space between universes. Thee fact it can be used to go from any point in the multiverse supports that. I don't get how you both...
  37. Yvel_Atsly

    Ready to upgrade

    Ready to upgrade
  38. Yvel_Atsly

    SMT Upgrades Part 1: Low 1-C Boost to infinity and beyond

    I'll get straight to it: There's are important feats i've noticed that massively boost SMT's 5-D power from the slightly above baseline we have now. As Stephen mentioned the Expanse transcends past, present and future across the multiverse, making it a 5-D structure. Thus the four Devas' feat...
  39. Yvel_Atsly

    Grappler Baki Discussion Thread 3

    I mean Baki has just as much stamina as him so yeah. Although the real question is can anyone else pull of the doing a mission for 131 hours straight that Gaia and 001 squadron pulled off
  40. Yvel_Atsly

    Grappler Baki Discussion Thread 3

    Oh yeah speaking of Retsu he should also be given instinctive reactions for using his "4001 years of chinse kenpo!" against Pickle even when he abandoned them and degraded himself into fighting like a 5 year old
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