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I'll keep your stance in mind. I've only been tallying evaluating staff though, because I expect this to be controversial and would rather focus my efforts into the actual arguments then repeatedly going back and updating the tally. Since their votes are what matter most for determining the...
I think we got confused because Naphta World was brought up. But yeah, the only thing in contention for 2-A right now is the Land of Traces, which I - as established - don't agree with scaling to 2-A. The individual traces represent 3-D snapshots of a 4-D timeline - and such 3-D snapshots can't...
Was it ever suggested that Anos was going to destroy all these infinite possibilities? With Venuzdonoa or otherwise, because then it'd be like "yeah sure there's 2-A in some form but it scales to no one"
You're talking about fan-used terminology as opposed to something in-verse, so I'd hardly call this equivalent
It can't be greater than 2-A if there's no 2-A structure to begin with - since the Land of Traces doesn't even fall into that. Traces aren't Low 2-C structures. Again, they're 3-D...
Based on what?
Except that I'm contesting the Land of Traces being 2-A to begin with. Even putting scaling ramifications aside, the evidence presented just does not suggest this at all. Traces are not Low 2-C structures, they're 3-D snapshots of a standard 4-D timeline
Whataboutism isn't an...
I have no reason to believe that "universe" means anything more than a Low 2-C structure without further substantiation, so a weaker step yielding stronger results is entirely inconsistent
I don't think that adequately explains why something that can destroy an allegedly 2-A structure is hyped up as "being able to destroy the universe." It's like rating a character as Tier 5 despite statements only indicating country level destruction, for example
That's not the only problem either. Lephyr sorta summed it up perfectly, but each trace basically seems like a certain point in time - which disqualifies it from Low 2-C. The scans used to justify traces being Low 2-C legitimately doesn't even say what's being claimed.
And not to mention, it's...
Being vaguely larger than a Low 2-C structure is still Low 2-C, so the same conclusion is reached: that no trace can actually hold something of that size
So I've been made aware of this CRT recently, and I've got some problems with it. Namely, the fact that the Land of Traces is considered a 2-A cosmology. I'll be going through the reasons used to make it a 2-A cosmology and explain my issues with them as I go along. Let's begin.
This seems...
@Antvasima This list includes everyone who supports the change from Planetary to Substellar. So, as far as voting staff go, just everyone on this list except me
The change would be to "Brown Dwarf level", not "Substellar level"
Edit: Ant edited his post, so now I realize he was talking about the Tier 5 change, not the High 5-A change
Not that it means much, but you can switch my vote to being neutral on which option we go with. I can see merit behind both approaches upon taking a second look
First point isn't the most solid to me but everything else supports it well enough that I feel comfortable supporting this. I agree with the proposed revision
This wouldn't qualify. A space containing a Low 2-C structure and is infinite in size could just be Low 2-C itself (say the Low 2-C structure it contains is finite in size, for instance)
2-A is containing an infinite number of Low 2-C structures
I don't see what you're saying. His fist collides with Kaido's face and moves at a certain speed, and then when he swings back his fist leaves Kaido's face and speeds up as a result of not colliding with anything now. I'm not convinced that this isn't valid
The fact that Luffy's putting in the same effort as when he was in the middle of punching Kaido, except now without colliding against something so he's actually going even faster, makes it so that the acceleration isn't "unrealistic"
"Engraved" also means it just has the design on it, which doesn't necessarily mean someone cut into it. It could've just been a result of the barrier's formation. This is too speculative
Also your Kaioshin Realm link is dead
You'd need to prove physical travel, I don't need some uber specific...
I mean for the Afterlife, this just means it's a barrier with a funky design. Doesn't make it not a dimensional barrier
And no, you can't say the same thing because we have proof of dimensional travel being used to reach these places while physical travel never is
@omegabronic You'd need actual evidence of people physically traveling to these locations. The only way they've been reached is still via interdimensional travel, so you can't start claiming physical travel is possible without evidence