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The point is that if beerus is stronger than belmold it's not by anything notable since any two gods of destruction fighting would destroy each other's universes. So what's the difference between Goku saying Broly is probably stronger than a GoD and whis saying Jiren is perhaps stronger than a GoD.
I get that the rules for dragon ball are different because i believe dragon ball as the most loosely held together multiverse rules. But if we are going to take the "probably" statement from Goku who hasn't even seen beerus' full power before then we should should take the statements from...
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If quote number 1 is enough to put him at a 2-C then quote number 2 should be enough to make MUI goku a 2-C. I think we should just take down the 2-C rating from gogeta.
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I've been wondering would powers like information manipulation and/or concept manipulation work against plot powers because at the end of the day those abilities all take place within the confines of a story.