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"Using the Context of the story to negate an argument isnt a good one, using your logic we cant have Anakin vs Darth Vader on vs battle wiki because they are the same person and they cant actually fight, you cant have Luke vs Qui Gon Jinn because Qui Gon died before Luke was born, this...
as previously mentioned his time stop would only mattered if he can spam it as Jason isn't a regular person and the way we see LS usually kill people wouldn't work.
And if he did eat Jason good chance he isn't eating him in his entirety or else that includes the heart and that isn't a good...
"Vader imagined the power that could be his if he crushed Palpatine and established his own rule over the Empire. But first, he would need his own apprentice. By himself, he could not hope to defeat the most powerful Sith Lord the galaxy had ever known." --Taken from Vader: The Ultimate Guide
Doom would take this victory.
Doom bots are powered by power of Cosmic (Numbers game/Versatility reason)
Intellegence, ruthlessness, and strategical planning has him on constant survellence from Thanos, Doctor strange can't say the same (Intellegence reason)
Loki say's his abilities could...
For one Chrollo didn't see nothing coming they completley got the drop on him. You can tell Chrollo didn't know what was going on, as he tried to figure out his plan but Pakunoda didn't relay fast enough.
Secondly, He was literally stated by melody, "To truly not fear death," and "His death...
There is a possibility Ahsoka was holding back, after hearing and seeing Anakin, she looked pretty overwhelmed. And there is no telling just how powerful Ahsoka gotten, maybe not equal I wouldn't dare, but relative very possible. And that isn't taking force ability into account they were...
Sup whis glad to see you on this site still, as for Bruce and Gyro then that statement should get revised. Because that's making a literal and direct comparison. "
in the Empire, only Palpatine and Vader can hold their own against her." would perfectly replace it in fact. But if it's saying she...
Also everyone in this thread, this is inept, via these feats
17 Taking an attack meant for a stronger character than Frieza
17 Taking attacks from this Jiren in general
17 vs Toppo compared to Frieza vs Toppo
Frieza vs Jiren 1v1 compared to 17 vs Jiren (Also a much more SERIOUS Jiren...)...
Also I'm gonna go ahead and ask that you not reply with un-supported evidence because for one I have a feeling you're gonna say something like "You can tire out when you're dead" when it has been displayed with ssj3 you can't you CAN get harmed and damaged but not "exhausted/tired"
You also...
So no you didn't make one point if anything everything you said was nothing but filler (ad verbousem)
1.) 17 does scale to Vegeta SSJBE he tanked an attack meant for Vegeta
2.) It's been HEAVILY established you cannot sense an Androids energy so no he cannot what you said in reguards to that...
Ok well no, this wouldn't be too exaggerated seeing as how powerful they are presented to be especially in Darkseids case
New God/Darkseid abilities:
Kills Ms. DC
(Admittedly could be for gag context but further it should make sense)
Harms Spectre
By default above Time and Space
This...
Both members didn't have nen, so this wouldn't count as a feat, especially since we don't know how strong Shalnark is and Koturopi was pretty much useless in terms of combat in that teir of fighting.
Well SBA means Hisoka is definetly going for the kill and that sky drop wasn't against a in-fight Cheetu so it possibly could've been dodged
So this won't count for now
Ok we are just going to have to say, darkseid claps Flashpoint included
scaling higher than Orion alone we know this much, Darkseid has far higher AP, speed blitzes with minimal ease, and out haxes Trigon to the point it's just U.N.F.A.I.R
Honestly hax alone Darkseid would've curbed....