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  1. LoudCloud

    Power scaling issues in JoJo's Bizzare Adventure

    Here's a another issue I found with the scaling in JoJo profiles. Ultimate Kars is Multi-city block level due to his Hamon being described as hundreds of times stronger than Joseph's. Yet Lisa Lisa's Hamon is described as 3 times stronger than Joseph's and she's put at the same level as him...
  2. LoudCloud

    Power scaling issues in JoJo's Bizzare Adventure

    I reckon the nature of Valentine's stand in part 7 does actually show us pretty well how similar alternate universe versions of stands are. Though I need to point out that the World in Part 7 was virtually identical to Part 3, whereas the Killer Queens have different applications to their...
  3. LoudCloud

    Power scaling issues in JoJo's Bizzare Adventure

    But if their stand powers don't even work identically, what makes you presume their physical stats are identical? Just because they look almost identical, doesn't necessarily mean they scale, or do we start powerscaling every alternate universe version of a superhero who looks the same but has...
  4. LoudCloud

    Power scaling issues in JoJo's Bizzare Adventure

    Ah ok, I was under the impression the attack potency of some Part 8 stands were being scaled from KQ and not SHA. My bad. But Part 8 KQ's speed still shouldn't scale to Part 4's, which would mean some Part 8 stands would be downgraded in speed right? If we could get actual scans or evidence of...
  5. LoudCloud

    Power scaling issues in JoJo's Bizzare Adventure

    Surely a lot of Part 8 profiles must be downgraded if we don't have sufficient evidence of Part 8 KQ scaling to Part 4 KQ nor Part 8 SHA scaling to Part 8 KQ. As for the Volpe thing, I remember seeing something like that in his profile, yet when reading the novel I was aware of Volpe's profile...
  6. LoudCloud

    Power scaling issues in JoJo's Bizzare Adventure

    Just 2 issues I noticed in the character profiles. I may find/add more later. 1. How come Part 8 Killer Queen gets scaled to Part 4 Killer Queen's speed, but Part 4 KQ doesn't scale to Part 8 KQ's attack potency? If we're going to argue that Part 8 KQ is practically the same as Part 4 and has...
    • LoudCloud
    • Thread
    • jojo's bizarre adventure massimo volpe yoshikage kira yoshikage kira (jojolion)
    • Replies: 60
    • Forum: Content Revision
  7. LoudCloud

    Jonathan Joestar vs. Beowulf (Skullgirls)

    Hamon only negates dura against vampiric enemies, altough it can also be used to make people unconscious like Joseph did (but this was only shown being used against normal humans).
  8. LoudCloud

    JoJo Profile Revisions/Clean-up

    Hermit Purple "breaking" Empress is more of a durability feat since it's Joseph's strength that's breaking Empress but Hermit Purple's tensile strength (durability) that it strangling it. There still isn't any actually comparison between Caesar and Lisa Lisa's physical AP/durability. But at the...
  9. LoudCloud

    JoJo Profile Revisions/Clean-up

    I'm not saying the decrease was that much. He could've just became building level instead of large building. Anyway, actual feats would be better than just speculation. Here's what I found for Joseph: - Since he survived getting hit by debris sent by the World (can't find a coloured scan)...
  10. LoudCloud

    JoJo Profile Revisions/Clean-up

    Joseph needs to be weakened a million times to be below Large Building level? And seeing as Joseph fought Esidisi and Wammu without ever getting hit, I'd say Lisa Lisa could do the same.
  11. LoudCloud

    JoJo Profile Revisions/Clean-up

    That's not the same feat. It's a pretty good example of Jonatha's strength matching and overcoming Dio's though. Here. All her hype and statements are about Hamon, not physical power.
  12. LoudCloud

    JoJo Profile Revisions/Clean-up

    Dio never attempted to block the punch. He was too busy breaking Jonathan's sword. That's not really "breaking though his guard" is it? Not a million times, but he is still weaker. Maybe enough that his tier would change. Characters who are weaker than before are usually put as "unknown" on...
  13. LoudCloud

    JoJo Profile Revisions/Clean-up

    If a bit of knock-back is enough to scale two character then sure. Alright, I guess putting "which should be around this level" at the end of the feat would help establish it better. Many other profiles use that wording too when it comes to "obvious" feats as you put it. No but it keeps your...
  14. LoudCloud

    JoJo Profile Revisions/Clean-up

    - The blood is from the area of Dio's body that has been cut in half. Jonathan's punch wouldn't have to penetrate or harm Dio's body in order to make it spew like that. - I've never came across profiles of characters who could rip regular humans in half as a definitive feat. I just assumed...
  15. LoudCloud

    JoJo Profile Revisions/Clean-up

    - Probably a mistake on the artist's part or it's just the sparks before hitting Dio. Either way, it still doesn't count as Jonathan didn't harm Dio's body with the punch. - Sure, but state that in the profile. - According to the JoJo wiki "as [Joseph] grew older, due to neglecting his Ripple...
  16. LoudCloud

    JoJo Profile Revisions/Clean-up

    We clearly see the Hamon (yellow sparks) around Dio's face. We also see his hand isn't frozen until after the punch. Is killing humans easily automatically wall-level? Whatever happened to street-level? Hamon keeps their users young and healthy. By neglecting it, Joseph's body would become...
  17. LoudCloud

    JoJo Profile Revisions/Clean-up

    Apologies for my lack of activity. I've had some internet problems recently. Anyway, just to adress some stuff. - The scan TheJ-ManRequiem posted of Jonathan harming Dio with "no hamon involved" does certainly involve Hamon. Jonathan was using Sunlight-yellow Overdrive according to the...
  18. LoudCloud

    Tengen Toppen Gurren Lagann and Granzeboma Revision

    Sounds great.
  19. LoudCloud

    JoJo Profile Revisions/Clean-up

    I've just noticed a lot of stuff in JoJo profiles that doesn't make much sense or needs some polishing. A lot of them are just innacuracies or out-of-context things in their profiles that should be re-worded or removed while other stuff is a bit more serious, especially when it comes to scaling...
    • LoudCloud
    • Thread
    • dio brando jojo's bizarre adventure jonathan joestar joseph joestar
    • Replies: 75
    • Forum: Content Revision
  20. LoudCloud

    Tengen Toppen Gurren Lagann and Granzeboma Revision

    I'm probably not the best person to come up with a proper suggestion for the profiles since my memory on the series is a little rusty and I've lost track of this thread recently (and the people on it seem to be awaiting more suggestions). I just think the current profiles have explanations that...
  21. LoudCloud

    Tengen Toppen Gurren Lagann and Granzeboma Revision

    I don't really mind what gets changed as long as TTGL's profile gets a better written explanation for it's tier.
  22. LoudCloud

    Tengen Toppen Gurren Lagann and Granzeboma Revision

    What have we decided?
  23. LoudCloud

    EarthBound: True General Revisions

    Not to mention the Devil machine has Ness' face on the front, which I always interpreted as his reflection.
  24. LoudCloud

    Tengen Toppen Gurren Lagann and Granzeboma Revision

    Why should we take the Infinity Big Bang Storm's name at face value? It might be called the "Infinity" Big Bang Storm and all and the Anti-Spiral refers to it as an "everlasting hellfire" but that could just be hyperbole. The scientists in this situation (the ones who are actually analysing...
  25. LoudCloud

    Tengen Toppen Gurren Lagann and Granzeboma Revision

    I made a thread asking a few questions about their tiers and I think we found some problems with their profiles. What it basically boils down to is: - Their Universe+ tiers are never justififed. The profiles talk about the Big Bang Storm that Grazemboa produced but Big Bangs on this wiki are...
    • LoudCloud
    • Thread
    • gurren lagann (verse) tengen toppa gurren lagann (mech) the anti-spiral
    • Replies: 231
    • Forum: Content Revision
  26. LoudCloud

    Question about Tengen Toppen Gurren Laggan

    Sure, hold on. Edit: Here it is.
  27. LoudCloud

    Question about Tengen Toppen Gurren Laggan

    Then the profiles should say they are made of a living universe (with a link to the evidence) rather than what they currently say.
  28. LoudCloud

    Question about Tengen Toppen Gurren Laggan

    Wouldn't barely harming it still scale them? Is a character that barely harms a City-level characer automatically Large Town-level? And why is that attack Low 2-C in the first place? No one has managed to explain this. A previous thread that has brought this up before (which I can't seem to...
  29. LoudCloud

    Question about Tengen Toppen Gurren Laggan

    bump The following still haven't really been explained: 1. TTGL's first AP and Durabilty stats are dubious at best. It's basically explained in their profile as "It survived a Low 2-C attack for a few seconds, therefore it's High 3-A". 2. Infinity Bing Bang Storm being Low 2-C is never...
  30. LoudCloud

    Where exactly does it state part 3 DIO is weaker than part 1 Dio?

    Yeah, I see no contradictions.
  31. LoudCloud

    Where exactly does it state part 3 DIO is weaker than part 1 Dio?

    Oh, I haven't read any of the novels. Just the manga. Sorry.
  32. LoudCloud

    Where exactly does it state part 3 DIO is weaker than part 1 Dio?

    CRT? Is that like fanfiction or something?
  33. LoudCloud

    Where exactly does it state part 3 DIO is weaker than part 1 Dio?

    That's true. I've been re-reading JoJo recently so it's hard not to compare what I see to what the VS Battle Wiki claims. Hence all the questions.
  34. LoudCloud

    Where exactly does it state part 3 DIO is weaker than part 1 Dio?

    Yeah, that's true. Jotaro survives quite a lot.
  35. LoudCloud

    Where exactly does it state part 3 DIO is weaker than part 1 Dio?

    Oh right. Also, maybe not related to the same question, but wouldn't Jotaro surviving the World's attacks (which all happened within a few panels) be an outlier?
  36. LoudCloud

    Where exactly does it state part 3 DIO is weaker than part 1 Dio?

    But after sucking Joseph's blood he claims he's never felt this good, implying he's stronger than ever before ("Awakened Dio" as his profile calls it). Just because Awakened Dio is more stronger than part 3 Dio that doesn't mean part 3 dio is weaker than part 1 Dio.
  37. LoudCloud

    Where exactly does it state part 3 DIO is weaker than part 1 Dio?

    Would be better to link that statement to a scan or something.
  38. LoudCloud

    Question about Tengen Toppen Gurren Laggan

    How is the Big Bang Low 2-C? Isn't it usually 3-A or less?
  39. LoudCloud

    Question about Tengen Toppen Gurren Laggan

    I'm asking, how is Granzemboa Universe+ by scaling to TTGL (who is only High Universe via scaling to Granzemboa anyway)? Because that's what their profiles state and it's giving them stats without any actual feats. Not only does the scaling make no sense but it relies on circular reasoning...
  40. LoudCloud

    Question about Tengen Toppen Gurren Laggan

    Should we ask an admin?
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