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  1. MinatoSparkle

    17 is alive

    I know. I keep thinking how 17 is Low-2-C. There are so many showings from episode 127 and 130 that should put 17 into a higher tier, but apparently 1.5 episodes of proof is completely "PIS."
  2. MinatoSparkle

    Tirek vs. Kharn

    If using current forms, I vote inconclusive, but if Full Power Tirek, I think I'll give a slight edge to him.
  3. MinatoSparkle

    Lord Tirek vs Vegito

    You say Base Vegito is roughly SSJ3 Goku level, but that doesn't make sense, as SSJ3 Goku Full Power couldn't do anything against Buutenks, but Base Vegito seemed to be winning against Buuhan,and it was even close to being a stomp. This should mean Base Vegito is at least 2-3x SSJ3 Goku.
  4. MinatoSparkle

    This is not a thread to shit on DB but Twilight vs Raven

    It extremely lowballed Twilight and Raven.
  5. MinatoSparkle

    Twilight Sparkle Upgrade

    Eh, you never know, but at least I now know why it's not listed as that.
  6. MinatoSparkle

    Twilight Sparkle Upgrade

    Ah, I see. It didn't specify on the tiers page. Either way though, Rainbow Power was efoortlessly able to defeat a being 8x stronger than Celestia, so there is an incredibly slim chance that Rainbow Power is 4-A. Albeit, a very low one, but it could at least be listed as possible, since we've...
  7. MinatoSparkle

    Twilight Sparkle Upgrade

    Twilight's Elements form, 4 alicorn state, and Rainbow Power are all listed as 4-B. And Princess Celestia is listed as that too. This makes no logical sense, as all of these are several times more powerful than Celestia at least. It's especially weird considering Rainbow Power is likely way more...
  8. MinatoSparkle

    Android 17 Upgrade

    Just because a Low 2-C character easily defeated someone else, doesn't mean they're not Low 2-C. For example, the Grand Priest would destroy Jiren, but they're both still Low 2-C. One character being massively stronger than another doesn't automatically mean they're in different tiers.
  9. MinatoSparkle

    Android 17 Upgrade

    I can see that Android 17 is at 3A level, and I personally disagree. This is because Goku and Jiren were shaking the entire world of void, stated to be an infinite dimmension of nothingness, in initial Ultra Instinct and Supressed states respectively. While in Ultra Instinct, Goku is barely able...
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