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  1. ZellTemplar55

    Triborg vs Porygon

    Porygon has a chance, he can avoid something's and boost himself, however, even with that, he's facing 3 highly skilled and versatile combatants that if they can't get Porygon one way, they'll get him another, I will say he could hold them all off but they're not just gonna play into that...
  2. ZellTemplar55

    Possible Vision upgrade?

    To my knowledge and from what I've seen from a quick check, not many should scale honestly, I mean the main ones that would have already gotten the upgrade, I'll double check and go through some things to see who else might scale
  3. ZellTemplar55

    Possible Vision upgrade?

    Ok few things, one well you kinda already said scaling from Wonder Man seems fine, not trying to be a jerk, two the feats again are even further backed up due to Wonder Man's upgrade as they are along that line of power, even if wanted to go with old ranking Vision should still get a dwarf star...
  4. ZellTemplar55

    Possible Vision upgrade?

    Finally back and noticed Wonder Man got upgraded to Solar system level, so now Vision scales up to that, that upgrade plus the feats I mentioned above now carry more weight since now it actually makes it more consistent, this also could add even more weight to a Namor upgrade as well, cause...
  5. ZellTemplar55

    Vulture vs. Firefly (Battle of the Wing-Suit Villains) (Voting Completed)

    1 question, which wingsuit is Vulture using, first one or second one
  6. ZellTemplar55

    Machinedramon vs Bowser

    No every thing I've commented on had some basis, Digimon being where they are is pretty sketchy, and I do plan on making a CRT, pretty much Digimon scaling, in their universe it works, but outside, not really, they're digital, last time I checked digital stuff has zero mass, now if there's a...
  7. ZellTemplar55

    Majin Buu vs Wonder Woman

    No...no he doesn't....like wow not even close. Yes he does, this place is infamous for some pretty bad DBZ listings
  8. ZellTemplar55

    Machinedramon vs Bowser

    Can I just say how sketchy it is for digimon being that power in the first place, and mind and soul manip is debated
  9. ZellTemplar55

    Mewtwo vs Darth Nihilus

    No he's very underrated, but even with wank it's just...it's just sad really, it's basically Star Platinum vs peak The World
  10. ZellTemplar55

    Mewtwo vs Darth Nihilus

    Nihilus is...well he's something else, it's basically just mind hax vs mind hax plus a bunch of other good abilities on top of it
  11. ZellTemplar55

    Fujimaru vs Saber (I give people reasons to dislike me)

    Zen is asking the real need to know questions
  12. ZellTemplar55

    Thor (Base) vs. Captain Marvel (Post Crisis)

    Bump
  13. ZellTemplar55

    Higher 4-B Juggernaught With Other Possible Abilities Upgrade

    Oh no I do as well actually, I mean I get the reason why some are against it but if they're hurting 4-B and 7.5 times difference is needed to one shot, technically...they should be 4-B to, since the scale of 4-B is WAY big, but think it has to do more of being of an average tbh
  14. ZellTemplar55

    Hulk vs Asura

    Pretty sure World Breaker is even above that in some calcs, but uh, how do I close it, cause I don't want his interfering with the new thread I made
  15. ZellTemplar55

    Hulk vs Asura

    True
  16. ZellTemplar55

    Higher 4-B Juggernaught With Other Possible Abilities Upgrade

    Also one thing I never got, 7.5 times power difference is needed to one shot, so how in the hell are dwarf star levels taking solar system levels on in Marvel, how does that happen
  17. ZellTemplar55

    Thor (Base) vs. Captain Marvel (Post Crisis)

    Speed equalized, blood lusted, start 10 meters apart, takes place in an abandoned city, no prep
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  18. ZellTemplar55

    Higher 4-B Juggernaught With Other Possible Abilities Upgrade

    What are Jugs most common feats anyway, just wondering
  19. ZellTemplar55

    Higher 4-B Juggernaught With Other Possible Abilities Upgrade

    Oh yeah I've seen some of the wildest crap, but honestly unrelated to marvel, not that long ago, I legitimately saw someone trying to argue that Janemba was only planet+ and a lightning timer, this guy also thought Thor was at peak a 2 times continent buster
  20. ZellTemplar55

    Battle between yellow 2As who have lost even against characters lesser than 2B (add this,votes are completed)

    Muda boi FRA
  21. ZellTemplar55

    (1 MORE VOTE!) Jason vs Look-See

    Jason FRA
  22. ZellTemplar55

    Higher 4-B Juggernaught With Other Possible Abilities Upgrade

    Heck not even bringing up Venom, know that they're are multi-city block level characters that have beaten 4-B in marvel, that's even worse
  23. ZellTemplar55

    Dante (with Sword of Sparda) vs Saitama

    I doubt Saitama has a chance to be honest, but will wait for more input
  24. ZellTemplar55

    Higher 4-B Juggernaught With Other Possible Abilities Upgrade

    To be fair Venom even overpowered the Hulk once so...Venom 4-B confirmed XD
  25. ZellTemplar55

    Alucard vs Galactus

    What is going on rn
  26. ZellTemplar55

    Higher 4-B Juggernaught With Other Possible Abilities Upgrade

    Honestly that's the sad truth about it
  27. ZellTemplar55

    Silver Surfer vs Martian Manhunter

    Let's start off with good ol precog, he can see the past, present, and future, he has amazing matter manipulation, he has biological manipulation, letting him basically do with Martian Manhunter whatever he wants, illusion creation to fool with him, he resist MM mind manip and has it himself...
  28. ZellTemplar55

    Galand vs Gajeel Redfox

    Gajeel FRA, some good reasons for Galand though, but don't think they're enough.
  29. ZellTemplar55

    Dabura slight upgrade

    Hope you know Gohan had received a zenkai after his fight with Cell, he completely was exhausted and collapsed being near death, so yes scaling to Super Perfect Cell does make sense, and if I recall there is no multiplier for Super Perfect Cell, most I've heard is it isn't even a x2
  30. ZellTemplar55

    Illuso vs king of inconclusive

    I was referring to your comment
  31. ZellTemplar55

    Baoh fights another Monster

    Yeah Jason has got this FRA
  32. ZellTemplar55

    Illuso vs king of inconclusive

    ^the first is most likely gonna happen, but who'd win between McQueen and the Inconclusive choice
  33. ZellTemplar55

    Scorpion vs Ryu for real

    Honestly if Ryu is allowed to transforms he's to powerful, I don't agree with Scorpion being listed as high as he is but even putting him where I believe he should be still isn't enough of a power difference to make up for the amount of abilities Scorpion has, so basically in their history...
  34. ZellTemplar55

    Deathstroke vs Yang Xiao Long

    Yeah as Schnee said DC low tiers are possibly being downgraded, but yeah overall Slade is vastly superior
  35. ZellTemplar55

    Gemerl VS Knuckles

    Knuckles FRA
  36. ZellTemplar55

    How does one determine a character's grip strength?

    I would guess it would be a smaller portion of your lifting strength, considering you are using far less muscles, considering there is someone on here from pretty much every walk of life, someone is bound to have an actual concrete answer, but honestly it doesn't matter, cause really, when are...
  37. ZellTemplar55

    Abomination vs. Solomon Grundy

    Bump
  38. ZellTemplar55

    Silver Surfer vs Martian Manhunter

    Ok let's do it, Silver Surfer...is to OP, I mean the guy literally was atomically destroyed, plus didn't he fight off Galactus' mind hax (might be thinking of something else), plus Silver Surfer doesn't look at a fight like you or I, he looks at a fight on how a god would handle it, plus the...
  39. ZellTemplar55

    (Grace) Bubsy vs. Donatello: What Could Paw-sibly Go Wrong?

    I vote for Bubsy, cause while I do agree Donatello definitely has some ways to win, he has to get the jump on him and he can't let him put the helm on, if he does then he loses homefield advantage and basically gets jumped by Bubsy cause even with how smart Donatello is he wouldn't see that...
  40. ZellTemplar55

    (Grace) Bubsy vs. Donatello: What Could Paw-sibly Go Wrong?

    Plus that Virgil Reality Helm could help out a lot as well, turning imagination into reality, then he really could mess crap up
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