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  1. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    Okay, how do you know Jotunheimen is lighter than Earth? Is it, probably, but there's no proof so we generally consider it to be earth sized.
  2. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    Oh shit hold up. I had the wrong feat in my head. Although technically I think if you highballed Thor's feat then you would likely get into 6-B. But the Bifrost feat. Yeah that one would still scale to the high tiers. Thor destroyed the Bifrost bridge as it was channeling the energy needed to...
  3. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    Ah okay, I remember that calc now. Still, don't know why it's being brought up when it's not even used in his profile. Also, that calc was a recalc, and used a different size to the original. Because yeah, Asgards very inconsistent.
  4. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    The feat Pre-Ragnarok Thor performed casually, which scales to a whole bunch of people. Which shook the planet itself. On a planet of Ice that was still capable of holding up a massive frost beast. Not to mention the frost giants themselves. And is likely far stronger than regular ice. Edit...
  5. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    There's honestly a lot. So I'll just refer you to this thread. Since it's, you know, the whole point of it. Main examples would be the bifrost destroying Jotunheim. But even if you think the feats of this thread can't be used. The size of Asgard is still a massive problem for me. If the size...
  6. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    Yes you can. When there are several feats from canonical weaker characters that give higher results. And again, Asgard is INCREDIBLY inconsistent in size. Hell, for a while the explosion was High 7-A because of one calc. Then another size was used to get 6-C. Then finally the one you're bringing...
  7. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    Honestly that 6-B explosion is complete bs. We don't have any concrete confirmation on how big Asgard is. And Asgard itself is MASSIVELY inconsistent in size. Pretty much every calc gives a different size. Making any calc for it basically unusable. Not to mention Surtur mentioning the Ragnarok...
  8. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    Same here. It honestly makes no sense that Rocket has this thing that puts it a 6-C. Yet he's also calling it like, the most powerful energy surge he's ever seen. Despite he himself easily making moon busting weapons from scrap.
  9. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    I think they're referring to the 6-C feat for ikaris.
  10. Z's_Universe

    (Dead or Alive & Ninja Gaiden) Ninjas' tiering

    This seems to make sense to me. Though I think Ryu is slightly below the Swords power.
  11. Z's_Universe

    (Dead or Alive & Ninja Gaiden) Ninjas' tiering

    It seems like pretty much everyone's in agreement with Ryu's scaling. At least with the dragon sword. I don't think the sword amps Ryu himself. But even in the video that was posted it states that the swords true strength is revealed through the jewel. Meaning that the sword itself is extremely...
  12. Z's_Universe

    Calculation Evaluations (New forum)

    https://vsbattles.com/tags/calculation-evaluations-and-requests/ This is what you're looking for
  13. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    Honestly, though it hasn't yet been confirmed. I think his inconsistency comes from his rage boosts. Throughout all the films we see moments where hulk gets beaten down (Thor in Ragnarok, Hulkbuster in AoU, and kinda Thor in A1) then there's a moment where he brushes off an attack, and starts...
  14. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    tl:dr, the number on screen was still going up when it was stopped, it's only scanning the earth at the time, not any other planet effected. It's considered a display greater than anything else seen, yet isn't even 6 gigatons, meanwhile Rocket can make a Moon Busting weapon with ease...
  15. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    I would go with what DontTalkDT said. We can't just act like the people in charge of these movies were thinking this much about it. They said "oh hey let's have Iron man get hit by a Meteor that sounds cool." And poof, here we are. When someone survives a planet Bust, the people in charge...
  16. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    Ah that one, I remember now. It seems like the issue was whether or not he was using the space stone for the feat. Imo it's pretty obvious he isn't, maybe he moved them closer but the throwing motion he does implies he's using telekinesis to move them rather than portal creation. But tbh, I'd...
  17. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    Uh, I know. That's what my post was about.
  18. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    Idk what 71 gigaton feat there is but, as for Surtur. This feat is just kind of an outlier, weaker characters survive stronger attacks. On top of this, Surtur mentions he can't die until he has completed Ragnarok, implying that his death is more due to the cycle of Ragnarok rather than the...
  19. Z's_Universe

    Calculation Evaluations (New forum)

    Priority: 1 (could upgrade the Survivor timeline a tier) Verse: Tomb Raider (Survivor Timeline Description: Some calcs from the tie-in comics Link (Sorry in advance for no scaling images, it won't let me upload them)
  20. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    This is a 50% fatality zone you're referring too, which likely refers to the resulting air pressure right? 400 of those bombs would not lierally destroy that whole area, a lot of it, again yes. But not all of it. Like I said in my last post, that statement was from WWII, on top of that, it was...
  21. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    Okay, let's say there is 4,000 nukes that are gonna be launched to accomplish this feat (more than the total arsenal of nukes in the US's possession) this would mean each bomb would have to have a yield of 42.5 Gigatons in order to accomplish this. It can't be less than this because otherwise it...
  22. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    Ah okay, that's just incorrect then. He says "let the dark magic flow through me one last time" however, dark magic is not something Given by specifically the forefathers of asgard. It's like the magic used by doctor strange and the other sorcerers. In fact several times dark magic is used in...
  23. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    I don't remember that ever being shown in IW, if you could find a scan for me that would be great. That's fair But it does mean her AP (which is what we use to scale their power) is at that level. Hela calls it "weak" and throws it to the ground, she is well aware of it's power. She's well...
  24. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    Yes, repair the Bridge, that constantly harnesses the power of the bifrost itself. Odin was weak due to having to use dark magic to send Thor to Earth. He won't need to constantly activate it, I guess you could think of it as a battery. Odin uses his power to activate, the sword is used to turn...
  25. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    But it is supporting evidence, the thread (why tf did it autocorrect to cross?) isn't for 5-B MCU. Yes the thread should've included all the information, but it wasn't being presented as "oh this can destroy the planet". Considering it was still causing earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, it...
  26. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    I don't think anyone on this thread was trying to imply Vers was planet level. I Yeah, but no one on this thread was trying to imply vers was planet level or anything. We're just saying it could be a supporting feat (though like I said in a previous post, it could also be an outlier. Since this...
  27. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    Ah alright, I guess that's fair. But still, he did do it, so it's still an AP feat. Just wouldn't count for durability.
  28. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    I'm saying it wasn't excepted before Hmm, why isn't it in his profile then? 🤔
  29. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    I thunk the 6-A crater got rejected. Surturs I believe was deemed an outlier
  30. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    I disagree, the whole point of the Bifrost Bridge being destroyed was to prevent the energy from destroying jotunheim. The energy travels through the bifrost bridge to the dome. Meaning it would have comparable levels of energy, also if it didn't. That would mean Thor took 10 strikes for what...
  31. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    Wouldn't this be pre Captain Marvel Vers though? isn't her true power being supressed by the Supreme Intelligence at this point? 'cause if it is then this would probably be an outlier. Seeing as how base Vers is comparable to Korath, which would then scale to the Guardians of the Galaxy. Though...
  32. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    I mean yeah it definitely could be, I just think the feat doesn't really need much support considering it's capabilities are pretty blatant.
  33. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    Would that do anything to the result though? It kinda just sounds like the same thing as "creating a new ice age".
  34. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    For sizes I'm specifically talking about the interviews you're mentioning. Not the earth sized assumption as that's pretty standard. I heard someone else mention that scientists in the movie compared it to Europa, however I haven't found any evidence supporting this. And if that interview can't...
  35. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    Can someone tell me where these sizes come from? I've seen so many claims like this but I just can't find any proof to back it up.
  36. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    Adding to this, I found this video. The fight is clearly taking place on earth and the Bifrost is shown the exact same way as when it was used in Jotunheim. So yeah, it can't be used for scaling.
  37. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    Honestly I think that would be really easy. From what I saw there's like, 4 feats that are being used for the justification. Thor's Jotunheim feat, which was extremely casual, and the accepted version is one of the lowest end results. Thor's storm in endgame, which is also very casual, and is...
  38. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    Didn't someone say there was a scan where scientists compared Jotenheim to Europa or something? I haven't found anything for that and honestly without proof for that just using Earth as a stand in seems fair. I mean, it does look like a full sized planet, we've seen other realms in the MCU, when...
  39. Z's_Universe

    Mcu 6-a and speed rough draft

    Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's just what's shown everytime the bifrost is used. Besides if we did use that the planet would be like, 2 kilometers wide.
  40. Z's_Universe

    (Dead or Alive & Ninja Gaiden) Ninjas' tiering

    Pretty much this yeah, it would be weird for it to mean just a planet when talking about nothingness and order and function in this context.
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