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  1. GiverOfThePeace

    Major EarthBound Revisions Part I: Cosmology and Stat Revisions

    Low 1-C so far is absorbing truth + giygas taking multiple hits from the player. For reference this is after taking hits from the prayers of all the people in the main universe and even those not being enough to stop him so they summon the player to defeat him. While DDM is right that Ness can't...
  2. GiverOfThePeace

    Major EarthBound Revisions Part I: Cosmology and Stat Revisions

    I am like 99% sure the zelda manga is treated as a secondary canon on this site.
  3. GiverOfThePeace

    Major EarthBound Revisions Part I: Cosmology and Stat Revisions

    I think it'd be best if Ultima or DontTalk comment on this, I don't want to try and piece together what they meant in what they said rather then them just clarifying.
  4. GiverOfThePeace

    Major EarthBound Revisions Part I: Cosmology and Stat Revisions

    So I read from the thread regarding tiering system FAQ page, that a fraction of tier 1 power is still tier 1. So I'm confused now on what's the standard here.
  5. GiverOfThePeace

    Major EarthBound Revisions Part I: Cosmology and Stat Revisions

    You told Fronk a while back on your message wall that what you saw qualifies for Supergenius tho? In this case however Ness is absorbing a significant portion of a being, not using them as a power source. Why would it not scale in this case?
  6. GiverOfThePeace

    Major EarthBound Revisions Part I: Cosmology and Stat Revisions

    Quote from you: "I am fully aware that Giegue is ridiculously stronger than Ninten, but this by itself does not make for an argument for tier 7". I'm declaring it a reasonable rule that has been consistently shown within the series with you having no proof other then "oh well not every existing...
  7. GiverOfThePeace

    Major EarthBound Revisions Part I: Cosmology and Stat Revisions

    Giegue being special for his race would further soldify his durability. Again also you have literally no proof PSI doesn't scale to dura other then "oh well every living case imaginable isn't shown' which is ridiculous to ask for. I've fulfilled the buden of proof, now I require the burden from you.
  8. GiverOfThePeace

    Major EarthBound Revisions Part I: Cosmology and Stat Revisions

    I never said being stupidly stronger then ninten is his reason for tier 7, strawman. I said that your claim that he can tank hits from Ninten implying Ninten harmed him was objectively false. I mean if you can show a case where a PSI user isn't comparable to their PSI physically, and I mean an...
  9. GiverOfThePeace

    Major EarthBound Revisions Part I: Cosmology and Stat Revisions

    The no weapon on earth part was rejected for 7-A, what I'm bringing up is that your claim of "tanking hits from Ninten" completely misunderstands that Ninten literally cannot harm him. Jeff being able to keep up with them proves what exactly? That would just mean he scales to them. For one Ness...
  10. GiverOfThePeace

    Major EarthBound Revisions Part I: Cosmology and Stat Revisions

    I'm going to be going to bed soon after this but let me cover a lot of these points. I have no clue where DDM got he "crashed to the ground and formed a dark cloud" from. Giegue's mere appaerance onto the planet caused said clouds. For "why would this scale to his durability" PSI in verse is a...
  11. GiverOfThePeace

    Massive Remy from Ratatouille Revisions

    So do I apply the changes or does this controversial thread need more input?
  12. GiverOfThePeace

    Massive Remy from Ratatouille Revisions

    I can't believe I'm doing this but I have to, the Ratatouille needs these massive revisions, before I die this is what will stay in everyone's wake. "Speed: Superhuman (Outran Chef Skinner, which was following him at top speed on a motorcycle)" First off Skinner didn't use a motorcycle he used...
  13. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

  14. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    I'll chill when people don't make these threads
  15. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    The best part about this is User has no win, if he opts to ban blaze, blaze gets what he wants, if he comments blaze gets what he wants, if he doesn't, everyone knows he RAN. This is the ultimate User jobbed thread
  16. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    Acknowledging something is bait then still biting the bait is still biting the bait Sonic fans coping Sleuth you like Homestuck Shut up Mav
  17. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    That sounds like the law suit is powerful enough to effect the archie comics while that's not the case for Truth. Fodder
  18. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    You already argued you goon Stfu star Stfu Mav
  19. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    Truth exists above the real world tho
  20. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    By this point I'm just seeing how Sonic guys can get themselves out of this one
  21. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    Apple of Enlightenment = Predicts everything in the universe like Source of All. Giygas watches Ness' every move with this. Truth of the Universe = Omniscient over the entire cosmology, including the real world.
  22. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    Oh so his omniscience is weaker then Ness, Ness has the ultimate intelligence of the entire cosmology via Truth of the Universe and is the universal system of fate, narrative, etc. So like Souce of All is literally irrelevant it's just a weaker apple of enlightenment.
  23. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    Does he resist the chaos force or something?
  24. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    Stfu Mav
  25. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    Ok so source of all sounds like apple of enlightenment, Ness' precog >>>>
  26. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    When I say precog elixir you understand I'm talking about via being omniscient, right? Not a destiny reading or something like that.
  27. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    Resist info analysis through precog or person reads you?
  28. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    Your scan directly shows he's having someone attack him and he's blocking it, so what he starts off with here is him reacting to an attack.
  29. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    Yes because an omniscient person that has info analysis and is naturally pacifistic in nature's leading move isn't going to be the one thing Archie Sonic doesn't resist.
  30. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    Then if he doesn't open up with it then legit thought based hypnosis gg. Clairvoyance doesn't really do much since he can spam hypnosis. There's a clear difference user through my self-evident claim vs your unsubstantiated one. You also made the claim first and I asked you to fufill your...
  31. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    It literally got officially removed from the verse. Long ago. If you feel you're being led, then they were leading you back before you were on even on this wiki.
  32. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    Yes avoid it as in hypnosis can fail on those with a resistance to it. In Earthbound enemies can "avoid" PSI attacks if the PSI fails.
  33. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    If me saying "*******" is aggressive, god you need to see half of the discord servers I'm in.
  34. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    Using the same wiki that says Giygas' has a weakness to hypnosis + starmen have all PSI isn't the best source.
  35. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    (The only wincon that he instantly opens up with vs. me yet to see Sonic have any thought based opens up with)
  36. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    So we're randomly assuming that Sonic is going to open up with a reality warp ability because and I quote "he never fought someone he didn't get easily stomped", why exactly does he not think Ness won't get easily stomped when ness is lower in AP then him? Well user, Ness is for one...
  37. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    Ok that's cool Mav, show me the instance where Sonic uses it for that.
  38. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    If it's scaling to someone he doesn't open up with it, hypnosis is Ness' own thing he uses in character. Idk about you but an actual ability you use vs. something someone's scaling to I would take the actual showing.
  39. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    Seeing as robots don't have minds, no.
  40. GiverOfThePeace

    The Rematch: Archie Sonic vs Ness

    PSI is mind manip in that he uses his mind to use said power. Hypnosis is sleep hax.
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