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  1. Deagonx

    Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

    This response leaves a bad taste in my mouth. The oldest of the screenshots is 6 months old, the others are only a few weeks old. Insinuating that the reason Fuji is making a report about actual transphobic comments you made, one of which was specifically about her, is because she wants to...
  2. Deagonx

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    I'm not disagreeing with that. Your reasoning seems to be as follows, correct me where I'm wrong: P1. An infinite amount of L2-C realms is a 2-A multiverse. P2. DT said that a 2-A multiverse is displaced across a 5-D axis. P3. DMC has an infinite amount of L2-C realms. P4. The Demon World is...
  3. Deagonx

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    I believe that's a good improvement, and I appreciate the clarifications. I think it's fine to move forward with those as written. Often times problems with standards exist by virtue of the way they are misunderstood rather than how they are understood, so we'll see how things play out with...
  4. Deagonx

    Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

    @LuffyRuffy46307 If that's the case, I ask that we not quibble over this until we've reached a situation where the difference between how a vote is being counted determines whether the thread passes or not.
  5. Deagonx

    Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

    Let me ask very clearly, does the characterization of these votes -- at this very moment -- determine the disposition of the thread? Or would it be ongoing either way?
  6. Deagonx

    The Dread Tiering System Revisions

    Reading through this, I am fine with the near entirety of it. I have some thoughts, however. Tiering System: So for 1-A specifically I do believe this is clear in terms of describing positive criteria, but I think it would be helpful to add something that explains very directly that "higher...
  7. Deagonx

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    Yeah, honestly, I've left this point be temporarily because I felt that it'd be easier to address the standards issue, but the evidence provided for the Demon World being 2-A is not good. The scans used to claim there are infinite realms in the Demon World are an avatar's description that reads...
  8. Deagonx

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    The problem is it's too nebulous, and the evidence in favor of them having the same direction for future/past is too overwhelming for something this vague to contradict it so strongly that we'd give it a new time axis. The rules of time might be difference, but that doesn't mean it goes along a...
  9. Deagonx

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    The crucial point for establishing an additional temporal axis is that it goes in a different direction than "past" and "future" of the cosmology's main temporal axis. The problem you keep running into is that you are trying to establish this by referring to some bigger and grander sense of...
  10. Deagonx

    Bill Cipher: Hax and Speed upgrades

    Then you should write the OP to reflect that. If you represent your reasoning as "the NR is outside x,y,z, due to being outside the universe" then naturally I'm going to point out that being outside the universe doesn't mean you lack those things. Once you go to a place that has time, you would...
  11. Deagonx

    Bill Cipher: Hax and Speed upgrades

    Bill's comment doesn't provide anything that would point towards "meaning" being a type 1 concept. Saying that meaning is determined by conscious judgment doesn't make it a concept. A concept is an abstraction that all particular instances of something are derived from. The concept of red is the...
  12. Deagonx

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    If the "Demon World" contains an infinite amount of 4D universes, that does not mean it is, itself, the 5D axis upon which the universes are displaced. You seem to be attempting to make an argument along these lines: "The Demon World contains infinite L2-C constructs which by default means it...
  13. Deagonx

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    I am saying that most of the proposal has been unanimously rejected. This proposal goes all the way to 10-D, but the only staff agrees are for 5-D. The only element of this CRT that still had viability was the proposal about the parallel universes representing a higher temporal axis. It's clear...
  14. Deagonx

    Light Manipulation via Flashlights

    I decided to join the "endure mild retinal bleaching for a CRT" train and used this 350 lumen flashlight from arms length, can confirm, the effect was mild.
  15. Deagonx

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    The near entirety of this CRT has been unanimously rejected, the only point that has received any support is the "extra temporal axis" claim, the full content of which I have indeed addressed. If you believe I missed something or that there is more to the argument beyond "timeline that contains...
  16. Deagonx

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    This is wrong on multiple accounts. The first is that we have a section of the FAQ dedicated to explaining how one can justify that a cosmology actually has an additional temporal axis in scenarios where it isn't directly stated. The fact that "timelines within a bigger timeline" wasn't...
  17. Deagonx

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    I did read the full blog. If this was a question of what the actual facts of the cosmology are in DMC, we could've dispensed with the random DB derailing and focused on that. You have claimed that there is an overarching timeline that contains the minor timelines of each individual world within...
  18. Deagonx

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    What does that have to do with this thread? You telling me that DB passed without meeting the standard doesn't have anything to do with this discussion. Please stop derailing with this whataboutism, this is not a dragon ball thread. No you didn't, you stated the exact same thing that multiple...
  19. Deagonx

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    The problem is that's not what the standard is. Timelines with smaller timelines within them are not part of the standard, nothing in the FAQ says that and the explanations from the staff members who wrote those standards have explicitly said that's not sufficient.
  20. Deagonx

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    Repeating once more that I do not know the specifics of this other verse's cosmology, the standards haven't changed. If what you're saying is true, then that revision was passed erroneously. The standards don't need to be revised. That's begging the question, you haven't established that...
  21. Deagonx

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    When someone proposes an upgrade, they're saying X information meets Y standards. It's a normal course of disagreement to say "X information may be true (or may not be true) but it doesn't fit Y standards." I would agree that an argument about what the standards ought to be is out of place...
  22. Deagonx

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    I couldn't agree more! Which is why the counterargument "well DB got it so it's fine" shouldn't be brought up here. It's not only a definitively invalid argument, but it's also off-topic. Discussing what the standards actually are definitely belongs here. That's a normal manner of argument for...
  23. Deagonx

    Vs battles wiki pet peeves

    That seemed to be the clear insinuation, but very well. If you have no issue with what she's doing, then there's no problem. I never did, I said that it is the one with the most quantity that I personally have seen.
  24. Deagonx

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    That's not rational. I don't know whether the situations are actually comparable, but even if they were all that would mean is that DB is wrong too, not that this is passable. We have explicit standards for matters like this, and the basic premise of CRTs is that things are added and removed...
  25. Deagonx

    Vs battles wiki pet peeves

    It doesn't, though. Every single verse on the wiki has some abilities which aren't properly justified somewhere. That's not what is being said about GoW, it is the sheer volume of abilities that were added with bad reasoning, many of which are to the point of absurdity. The context of this is...
  26. Deagonx

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    Timelines containing smaller spacetimes doesn't qualify as an additional temporal axis, based on the Tiering FAQ and what Qawsedf and DontTalk have said on the matter.
  27. Deagonx

    Vs battles wiki pet peeves

    Why would Touhou be deleted from the wiki? It needs improvement, but its far from being in the kind of state we would need to justify deleting a verse. This just seems motivated purely by spite. You attempted to claim Touhou was worse because of a single ability that was not properly justified...
  28. Deagonx

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    Griffin said it's better if he moves himself to neural for now. Pein isn't a staff member so it's essentially 1-2? But Planck hasn't addressed what Qawsedf said so his view may change.
  29. Deagonx

    Vs battles wiki pet peeves

    I don't think anyone made the claim "GoW is the only verse with any poorly justified abilities" or "Fuji's favorite verse is a shining beacon of up-to-date information." This example just doesn't provide anything than a hollow "gotcha." It's not nearly as bad as the sort of stuff we've been...
  30. Deagonx

    Vs battles wiki pet peeves

    That's not "far more egregious." There could actually be context to the verse mechanics that make this coherent. I agree this gif by itself is insufficient evidence, but it is frankly nowhere near the level of absurdity that I've seen in GoW profiles. This is not "having kids is life manip"...
  31. Deagonx

    Vs battles wiki pet peeves

    I have no idea what you're referring to here. As far as I know neither me nor Fuji were asked to do these downgrades by someone else nor were we offered money for it. Please refrain from making bizarre accusations like that.
  32. Deagonx

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    DBS probably shouldn't have gotten it, but I'd have to refresh my memory on why they got it. Anyways, as to what does qualify: if the number of infinite spaces is considered uncountably infinite that could justify an additional spatial axis. Alternatively if it is stated that an infinitely...
  33. Deagonx

    Vs battles wiki pet peeves

    The basic premise of this website is indexing characters, and people tend to be here because they have a vested interest in accurate indexing. It's natural to want to fix something when you see it is inaccurate. It's also just the principle of the matter. It's normal for small mistakes to slip...
  34. Deagonx

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    This list sort of concerns me. We shouldn't let this snowball out of control if the issue is about what the actual standards are. An infinite amount of infinitely sized spaces doesn't constitute a 5-D cosmology. Having different flows of time doesn't constitute a 5-D cosmology or an extra...
  35. Deagonx

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    They are physically separate, but within the same cosmology. Time was stopped for one but not the other with magic.
  36. Deagonx

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    This is Da Vinci-esque. Anyways, @Planck69, do you have any thoughts on this? If the disagreement is over what the evidence is telling us, that's one thing, but if we still have a disagreement about what the standard even is, then we should probably create a staff thread to resolve it. This is...
  37. Deagonx

    Yikes! I suppose even Fuji May Cry after looking at this upgrade CRT

    Gotcha. Minor note, but I believe it wasn't time travel per se, they were just went directly to a parallel universe. So, generally speaking, the fact that a "timeline" or parallel universe contains two distinct universes with their own "timelines" doesn't mean there is another axis?
  38. Deagonx

    Dark Samus/Metroid Prime (creature) Revision

    I strongly agree with this. These sorts of arguments are a huge waste of time. It's one thing to be a supporter, it's another thing to try and argue line-by-line every downgrade thread with this kind of stuff.
  39. Deagonx

    Light Manipulation via Flashlights

    Crucially, I said "a cigarette lighter" not "a cigarette lighter and large amounts of combustive fluid."
  40. Deagonx

    Light Manipulation via Flashlights

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