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  1. Deagonx

    Dragon Ball's Main Cannon Timeline number downgrade

    The arguments in the OP make sense to me
  2. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 4⌋

    No rush. I'll close this now.
  3. Deagonx

    Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

    Both sides of this matter are best handled in the private report forum, both the reported user (as it pertains to off-site messages) and the claims of Garrixian calling someone slurs.
  4. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 4⌋

    Of course, but we don't. We have showings the threads being able to affect people, but nothing showing that this is a form of causality manipulation rather than just a magical tie between the two things.
  5. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 4⌋

    There isn't any evidence that the threads are imbued with causality manipulation. You are interpreting the threads as "decreeing any effects for a cause" but that's just a theory, we are never told that this is the mechanism for it.
  6. Deagonx

    Captain Atom resistance to Statistical Analysis

    I'm leaning more towards this. I'm not sure "Resistance to Statistical Analysis" makes a lot of sense In this scan I'm not sure what is meant to indicated that he isn't effected by it. Midnighter doesn't seem surprised even when Atom grabs him from behind by the collar, he calmly instructs...
  7. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 4⌋

    I don't think that's the most logical interpretation, personally. I am more inclined to think of it as being akin to voodoo in the sense of an object that is tethered to something else. More importantly, this line of thinking makes the whole arrangement somewhat strange. If the Fates simply...
  8. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 4⌋

    This is just a chain reaction, not causality manip. That'd be like saying causality manip is the reason that the death of Franz Ferdinand sparked World War 1. It's true that the threads have effects on people, but this isn't evidence of causality manip. We aren't told that the mechanism is...
  9. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 4⌋

    There isn't evidence that the Fates are capable of changing what effect a cause has. All we know is that they pluck the strings. We are never told that the mechanism for manipulating events is due to causality manip or probability manip.
  10. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 4⌋

    Causing something to happen isn't causality manip. The way you're describing this makes it sound as though you think that actions which result in outcomes through cause and effect is indicative of causality manip. But that is simply how actions work. Fating something to happen doesn't require...
  11. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 4⌋

    @Mr. Bambu @DarkGrath @Firestorm808 @CrimsonStarFallen @Maverick_Zero_X @Armorchompy Another simple set of revisions. Feel free to ignore the ping if you're busy/not interested.
  12. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 4⌋

    What action specifically are you proposing meets this criteria and how?
  13. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 4⌋

    Agreed, if this is the only justification in his profile, easy removal. Yes, this is just a reflection of her role in the process, not BFR by any means. Agreed. Straightforward. Agreed, nothing indicates that they are "creating possibilities." Yep, all just fate manip. Agreed.
  14. Deagonx

    Bill Cipher: It's finally time for Tier 1

    No, I was explaining the standards. I was not agreeing that QS has been proven in this case.
  15. Deagonx

    Bill Cipher: It's finally time for Tier 1

    What did I concede on and when?
  16. Deagonx

    Bill Cipher: It's finally time for Tier 1

    I haven't seen any evidence that the Nightmare Realm contains other dimensions. Only that it is between other dimensions and acts as a gateway. This confirms what I'm saying: Being called a "higher plane" is irrelevant. If you can prove that the plane has Qualitiative Superiority, that's fine...
  17. Deagonx

    Bill Cipher: It's finally time for Tier 1

    I think we're speaking parallel to each other here. I agree with what you're saying.
  18. Deagonx

    Bill Cipher: It's finally time for Tier 1

    You hurt your own argument with the fluff. Two out of the four additional pieces of info are the same (that it's infinite in size) and have nothing to do with being higher dimensional. The higher plane statement isn't helpful. So really we have one more piece of info which is an illustration of...
  19. Deagonx

    Bill Cipher: It's finally time for Tier 1

    Given that he's talking about college courses he took, I am not sure it's even a given that the dimensions necessarily refer to the nightmare realm rather than something in their native dimension. If he studied this in college for three semesters and could've taken more classes, and if the...
  20. Deagonx

    Bill Cipher: It's finally time for Tier 1

    I'm not sure what you mean. What kind of elaboration could be provided beyond what I've said, with regard to a scan that says very little? My stance is pretty straightforward. The argument in favor of the upgrade is that the reference to Fifth Dimensional Calculus can be inferred to mean that...
  21. Deagonx

    Bill Cipher: It's finally time for Tier 1

    I'm not opposed to the idea that it's geometric, but the context is really fuzzy. I don't think it necessarily implies the NR itself is 5-D or tells us enough about the nature of the dimensions such that we could scale it to someone in the series necessarily.
  22. Deagonx

    Bill Cipher: It's finally time for Tier 1

    I don't love the way the information is presented. Being called a "higher plane" isn't helpful, and I am not as persuaded about the optical illusions being evidence of higher spatial dimensions. The "Fifth-Dimensional Calculus" reference with regard to building the portal device seems better...
  23. Deagonx

    Bill Cipher: It's finally time for Tier 1

    The "existing in 7 to 11 dimensions at once" appears to more naturally refer to universes IMO. Especially as he is describing what creatures have that skeleton shape, which would appear to be a relatively normal skeleton. In absence of further context I don't think it's strong enough evidence to...
  24. Deagonx

    LET US BRING SHINZA BACK Part 1

    This is a good point, and similarly the one piece of info that I do have about the verse is that its a Tier™ verse and it does make more sense to wait for that to become clearer before any CRTs are made.
  25. Deagonx

    LET US BRING SHINZA BACK Part 1

    So, I don't personally have any knowledge of this verse at all, with regard to the media itself or what it was like here on the wiki/forum. Further, I am not familiar with what sort of criteria we employ with regard to deleting or reinstating verses. I will remain neutral for now until there is...
  26. Deagonx

    Mister Mxyzptlk and World's Funniest

    Low 1-C makes sense. I don't think we have much to suggest they can destroy all of hypertime
  27. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 3⌋

    Yes, that's fine.
  28. Deagonx

    I understand that issue, but despite the similar description the book is expressing that "easily...

    I understand that issue, but despite the similar description the book is expressing that "easily smashing them to pieces with extra power" is why the hammer kills them. The fact that the swords "break them into pieces" must be considered distinct from this despite being similar. I don't...
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  29. Deagonx

    The novel describes Kratos as needing to grind them into dust to prevent them from reforming. I...

    The novel describes Kratos as needing to grind them into dust to prevent them from reforming. I am aware this is secondary canon, but I am using this to make a comparison. The finishers/hammer serve a similar purpose, the guide describes this as "finishing them off" and that the hammer has...
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  30. Deagonx

    Its certainly possible, but I think it is far fetched. It's difficult to imagine a coherent...

    Its certainly possible, but I think it is far fetched. It's difficult to imagine a coherent mechanism through which the negation would only occur alongside a damage threshold being met, rather than it merely being a matter of damage threshold. When I asked for one in the thread and in other...
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  31. Deagonx

    Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

    It can be discussed privately if needed, but I trust your judgment. If Topaz truly is a sock then naturally the appeal is invalid and the new account ought to he banned as well.
  32. Deagonx

    Sure. We can continue the discussion here.

    Sure. We can continue the discussion here.
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  33. Deagonx

    God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

    The point is that if they disassemble after being hit several times with the hammer and then re-assemble, their ability to re-assemble isn't being negated by the hammer.
  34. Deagonx

    Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

    I would prefer to nip this in the bud. Please do not continue to argue here on the matter between yourselves. The recent threads will be looked into to determine if it constitutes a rule violation.
  35. Deagonx

    Guilty Gear: Scaling Revision (Part 2)

    From Part 1: This was May 15th, which means we have to get this done within six days while the spark is alive. Should be doable. No objections to updating based on the renewed calc. As an aside, where does the 41x come from? Him saying "plus" instead of "times" or some equivalent would make...
  36. Deagonx

    Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

    @Adam1936 Adam, these sorts of remarks alongside others you made in the thread are frowned upon. I don't believe they reach a threshold for serious action, but disagreements are to be expected on a debating website, and this is not an appropriate response. Refrain from this in the future, please.
  37. Deagonx

    Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

    After reading through this and some of the matters referenced by DDM and Clover, I am inclined to think this individual should not be allowed back. If the most recent debacle was the sole matter at hand, I'd say it's fine to give another chance. However, a long series of bans tracing back all...
  38. Deagonx

    God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

    The hammer faces the same obstacle. You can hit them with the hammer, cause them to scatter into bones, and they will still reform. The hammer doesn't deactivate their ability to reform from scattered bones..
  39. Deagonx

    Vs battles wiki pet peeves

    Yeah. I'm in the same boat. Even aside from the general annoyance factor, those sorts of arguments just prevent any meaningful voting because no one wants to sift through the mostly aimless arguing. So I try my best to focus on the most important details
  40. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 3⌋

    @Mr. Bambu @Firestorm808 @CrimsonStarFallen @DarkGrath Any of you mind looking over this? If it helps, the verse supporters are also in agreement with these changes, so it's uncontroversial this time:
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