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  1. Deagonx

    Vs battles wiki pet peeves

    I'm not talking in terms of the forum, I mean the concept in general within battleboarding.
  2. Deagonx

    Vs battles wiki pet peeves

    This is one reason of many that I just generally avoid things pertaining to calcs. It often feels like we're just abusing an author's ambivalence towards physics to make a caricature of a series.
  3. Deagonx

    Mister Mxyzptlk and World's Funniest

    I agree.
  4. Deagonx

    God of war | Kratos's immortality Negation section.

    It's greatly relevant if the argument is that he's deactivating resurrection but for some reason it only gets deactivated on the final hit, and visibly not the second to last hit.
  5. Deagonx

    God of war | Kratos's immortality Negation section.

    Yep I said so three times in the argument that you have not yet addressed.
  6. Deagonx

    God of war | Kratos's immortality Negation section.

    Is the strategy here to simply ask me to explain the problem over and over? I don't understand. I have like a 3 paragraph explanation of the problem from three comments ago, which was in response to Glass asking "what's the problem" and the response I got was "you're just trying to say he can't...
  7. Deagonx

    God of war | Kratos's immortality Negation section.

    ...are you under the impression that I do not believe he permanently killed them? Even though the second sentence in the quoted argument was "you can attack them again and they permanently die?" I am not sure what to say here really.
  8. Deagonx

    God of war | Kratos's immortality Negation section.

    I have explained this twice already in considerable detail. You haven't addressed it. Most undead just will die to physical damage. That's not negation. You could also have it by stripping them of their undead status directly.
  9. Deagonx

    God of war | Kratos's immortality Negation section.

    It's a matter of the type of immortality they have. If only his final hit can actually kill them, clearly he's not negating regeneration. Which means it's just another showcase of Type 2. If we give everyone who can kill skeletons and zombies "Type 7 immortality negation" then frankly we should...
  10. Deagonx

    God of war | Kratos's immortality Negation section.

    No, it's that the type of mortality negation being proposed doesn't make sense in light of how these fights are carried out. The notion is that he is deactivating their ability to regenerate. If you hit them until they are stunned, you can attack them again and they permanently die. If you...
  11. Deagonx

    Metroid Prime 2: Light of Aether downgrade

    This is a complete non sequitur. Not only is linking to a wiki entry not a valid way to present this information, but (a) Suns do not regenerate energy and (b) this does not fix the reasons why the energy literally cannot be regenerating at a rapid pace due to how that breaks the plot of the...
  12. Deagonx

    Metroid Prime 2: Light of Aether downgrade

    I'm going to try and circumvent what I think would ultimately be a large and futile argument about the dynamics you're describing and condense it as such: Your proposal could be valid, but there are potential issues. However: Even if all of what you said was true, our complete inability to...
  13. Deagonx

    Metroid Prime 2: Light of Aether downgrade

    Slow cumulative regeneration of the energy isn't really a counter argument to the issues presented in the OP. We know some of the energy is solar and geothermal so probably yes there is some small global sense of gathering energy but the plot line fails to make sense if Samus is using any...
  14. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 2⌋

    Only the gods are falling asleep. We never see this happen to humans passively. Like I said, the only point in which other humans are seen they are all awake. Because he's being blasted with the fog. In the main game play you literally can't enter the fog because the fog damages you, and you...
  15. Deagonx

    Metroid Prime 2: Light of Aether downgrade

    Sound. Yeah that all makes perfect sense. Agreed. Yeah. It's a bit hard to follow but I have to agree with this. This logbook doesn't say anything like that. Also, the fact that the Light and Dark Aether are repeatedly described as having "half" of the planet's energy suggests that it...
  16. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 2⌋

    Kratos not needing to sleep much isn't the same as Resistance to Sleep Manip. Kratos didn't have a special resistance to Morpheus' powers. He was not the only person awake, the only time you see other humans in the game after the sun disappears, they're screaming about the fog monsters who come...
  17. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 2⌋

    Unfortunately the amount of information we are given is very limited. When the mystical heirloom is found, Mimir asks if it's the thing we've read about that can break a "sleeping curse." In the codex entries about the trolls, the person who put them to sleep calls it a "rousing relic." The...
  18. Deagonx

    General DC Comics Discussion Thread

    I believe we had a CRT on the subject. I'll find the link later when I'm at my computer
  19. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 2⌋

    They cannot both be fimbulwinters. In any case, this discussion will go nowhere unless there's actual direct evidence of Kratos using magic snowfall causing powers to make it winter. It cannot be inferred by coincidence.
  20. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 2⌋

    First, I'm confused as to you misspelling my username over and over. Second. He currently has "low multiversal range" due to the claim that he caused fimbulwinter, so yes somebody is claiming that and apparently got it passed with a CRT. In any case, there is literally no evidence of him...
  21. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 2⌋

    First, the phrase "close call" does not mean it was a surprise, it means that it brought them to the brink. Second, the first video you provided directly debunks the notion that Kratos used some special weather manipulation power to cause the snowfall. Third, a dwarf being able to tell that the...
  22. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 2⌋

    First, nothing in that scans says that (A) they were unable to predict it, or (B) that they usually can predict such things. And even if both of those things were true, this would still be far too speculative to grant an ability. That video doesn't demonstrate madness manipulation. The fact...
  23. Deagonx

    Sorry, that's a favorite anime of mine so I avoid threads about it due to spoilers.

    Sorry, that's a favorite anime of mine so I avoid threads about it due to spoilers.
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  24. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 2⌋

    In the Codex we're told that they were imprisoned by Alviss Stonefoot who used "Nott's Slumber." Mimir describes the relic as being able to break a "sleeping curse." Logically, it doesn't make much sense for a sleeping curse to be applied by trying to forcibly equip stone armor onto violent...
  25. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 2⌋

    Yes, but the stone itself isn't what put them to sleep, it was a sleeping curse. All that is said about the stone's is "the magic that maintained their slumber" still courses through it. It's never suggested by Mimir or in the description that a normal person would just instantly fall asleep if...
  26. Deagonx

    The Great Odyssean Quest to Downgrade God of War ⌈Part 2⌋

    Yeah this is wild. The scan doesn't even imply it was because of Kratos. Agree with the removal. Agreed, nothing implies that these stones are supposed to just make someone fall asleep on contact. Torturing someone to the point of insanity isn't even madness manipulation, so, absolutely...
  27. Deagonx

    God of war | Kratos's immortality Negation section.

    The damage threshold is explicitly described in two of the sources, and is embedded in the criteria for Immortality Type 2. He wouldn't need to pulverize their bones (not sure where that came from) for there to be a damage threshold. No, it is that the fact that he is using regular attacks to...
  28. Deagonx

    God of war | Kratos's immortality Negation section.

    Sure, that was with regard to a different enemy. In any case, I have addressed this gif. Kratos' attacks leave the skeleton in a dazed state where he can attack them again and completely destroy them. If Kratos' attacks are negating their immortality, then it doesn't make sense why that...
  29. Deagonx

    God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

    Again, this appears to be an entirely ad-hoc assertion. I don't have any issue with using those quotes where they do not conflict with the game, but that does not provide a sufficient basis for saying we can just grab the Iliad and just grab what we want and assume it's canon to GoW so long as...
  30. Deagonx

    Super Revision Bros (4-A proposals, Grand Star key, and two calculations)

    These are essentially my thoughts as well. Chariot and Armor make good sense here.
  31. Deagonx

    God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

    These seems to be an entirely ad-hoc assertion. Versions of Greek myths vary considerably, and again: We will never index based on information that is completely absent in the verse. Without the scans I'm not in a position to evaluate these claims. All I can say for sure is that the cover you...
  32. Deagonx

    God of war | Kratos's immortality Negation section.

    In the video you linked, that is not the case. The breaking point is clearly their midsection, not simply legs being torn. Pretty much anyone can kill a skeleton in fiction. Every TES main character can kill skeletons, they don't have Type 7 negation for it. You can continue some other...
  33. Deagonx

    God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

    That doesn't really make sense, because if you're using Greek myths to fill in the blanks, then none of them are going to be "inconsistent" and we'll still be left with several possible versions of the same story. "Stories of Ancient Greek History and Mythical Lore give you insight behind the...
  34. Deagonx

    God of war | Kratos's immortality Negation section.

    Being ripped apart at the midsection is different from simply tearing off legs. No, Type 7 Negation isn't something like "making them live again through resurrection" it refers to stripping them of the magical status of being undead. If you negate a zombie's Type 7 Immortality they just revert...
  35. Deagonx

    New additions to Murder Drones + Physiology page

    Yes, this is essentially what I'm getting at. For instance, if the Death Note didn't work on other people who had a Death Note, I wouldn't assume that people who have Death Notes are just globally immune to all forms of mind manip/death manip. They're just specifically immune to Death Notes. I...
  36. Deagonx

    God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

    There is no consistent "Greek mythos." Again, every story in Greek mythology has several versions. Also, what line in which guidebook used the word "canon" to describe non-GoW greek mythology? No, that's far far below our evidence threshold for "possibly." Yeah I don't mind it informing minor...
  37. Deagonx

    God of war | Kratos's immortality Negation section.

    As others have stated, this appears to just be Kratos reaching a damage threshold. Especially since both of the scans being used to support their immortality speak about this damage threshold. Killing undead creatures isn't Type 7 negation, you have to be literally stripping them of their...
  38. Deagonx

    God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

    It can't be used as a possibly because it isn't in the verse. Our standard of evidence for a "possibly" is considerably higher than what would be met by just mentioning a figure who -- in some version of his real life myth -- did something that might be considered Concept Manip. Also, there are...
  39. Deagonx

    God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

    Generally, we don't allow verses to extrapolate information from religious inspirations unless that information was stipulated within the lore itself. It may be fine to use it for understanding something, but it wouldn't generate new tiers or abilities. This is especially true with something...
  40. Deagonx

    New additions to Murder Drones + Physiology page

    I'm aware, that's not what I am objecting to.
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