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It's a factor to consider. I'd be pretty skeptical if somebody came up with a calc method that'd make James Bond be Mountain level. Doesn't mean I'd dismiss it out of hand, but contextually there's only so far you can suspend disbelief for certain things.
Doesn't really matter if you disagree...
I don't want to hide evidence that could affect their punishment here - I'm pretty sure the thread will be deleted once a judgement has been handed out.
I try to be open-minded about their points but even I'm annoyed at their repetitiveness and attitude towards other users. We've had pages of the thread filled with arguments about this.
To be fair I don't think that's what is meant by a retcon here; I think they're referring to it being phased out / no longer mentioned / dropped. Not someone explicitly acknowledging it in-universe and saying they can no longer do it.
@Veronica I do have to say that it's getting quite repetitve; you're not winning any points by bringing up the same points over and over again on the general discussion thread.
Granted Whis definitely isn't using his full power in sparring matches; he could knock out Beerus with a tap after all so he definitely isn't fighting at that level when training Goku and Vegeta. Doesn't mean he has to limit himself outside of that.
When is Whis ever stated to not be allowed to use his full power / flight speed? The only restriction on Whis is that he can't take biased actions in conflicts.
Okay. It's been over 4 months since it started, it appears to have been fully rejected. I'll be closing this now. If anything new comes up for the calc or the feat, a fresh CRT can be created to address it.
On a near-planetary scale of a shot like that, you're not going to be able to see a small amount of movement. If you assume stationary but the rocks had actually moved a few meters since Saitama jumped off them, how are we supposed to disprove that?