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  1. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    Yes. And rewriting the explanation pages accordingly. I'm working on that as we speak.
  2. Ultima_Reality

    The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

    Haven't heard that name in a while.
  3. Ultima_Reality

    Não recordo disso. Vou ver.

    Não recordo disso. Vou ver.
  4. Ultima_Reality

    The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

  5. Ultima_Reality

    Dragonball: 1-B Timeline

    Parallel temporal dimensions don't actually net Tier 1. Higher temporal dimensions is what does. Same thing as the difference between a 2-dimensional object and two lines that just stand parallel to each other on a 2-D plane.
  6. Ultima_Reality

    The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

    True. If there's a fight going on outside of the portal and somehow earthquakes from the outside are felt on the inside, for example, that's problematic. (Though it can be chalked up to PIS depending on how adamant the verse otherwise is about the realm's transcendence and the potential fewness...
  7. Ultima_Reality

    The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

    That's not actually the argument. The point is less that and more "The building on Earth is a gateway to the higher realm and not the higher realm in-and-of-itself." If it actually was the whole realm somehow circumscribed inside of ordinary space, though, I obviously would agree. Not exactly...
  8. Ultima_Reality

    The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

    As a serious answer: I don't believe the House of Ideas' claim to 1-A or higher is invalidated, no. I'm tired as shit right now, though, so more in-depth explanation ought to come later. (Hopefully you people at least realize that the "It's a building in Connecticut" point is really damn stupid...
  9. Ultima_Reality

    The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

    9-A House of Ideas confirmed. Damn.
  10. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    Depends. "Reality/Unreality" might very well not be a dichotomy that's actually indicative of power whatsoever. For instance, in DC, the Sphere of the Gods and its realms are referred to as "fictions" where the physical realm is reality, but the former are not really ontologically inferior to...
  11. Ultima_Reality

    Extended Modal Realism is pretty problematic because it's basically just fancy trivialism in its...

    Extended Modal Realism is pretty problematic because it's basically just fancy trivialism in its acceptance of all contradictory things as corresponding to "valid" states-of-affairs. I wouldn't tier it at all, myself, at least not in its full glory. If you water it down a bit it's probably just...
  12. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    Either way: From what can be gathered, the margin of agreement-to-disagreement is 8 to 1, so far, and Qaws hasn't been around to this in a hot minute despite the recent ping. In my mind there is no necessity for further reinforcement, either, so, I'd say it's fine to call the wraps on this.
  13. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    Pretty much, yeah.
  14. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    There are different types of possibility that you can juggle up in metaphysics (Nomological, metaphysical and logical), so to qualify for High 1-A+ at all, I'd want a statement clarifying that the "Actualization of possibilities" in question specifically refers to logical possibility. So...
  15. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    We commonly use "n-D" to indicate the dimensionality of characters, so extending the tiers to include "D" ends would probably be way too confusing. I have a fair few, more minimalistic, ideas of my own. Topic for the next thread, as said.
  16. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    That is true, in a way. "High 1-A+ first type" and "High 1-A+ second type" are pretty closely related, but they're also distinct in that, as said, the latter is stronger than the former. If there was a character of the former type and a character of the latter type in the same verse, and then a...
  17. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    Noted.
  18. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    This can probably be clarified by elucidating the "ladder" going from the two types of High 1-A+ to Tier 0. Basically, I'd say: High 1-A+ (First type) = Character who can actualize arbitrarily large logical possibilities High 1-A+ (Second type) = Character who embodies all possibilities. 0 =...
  19. Ultima_Reality

    Thor Abstract Existence and Conceptual Manipulation

    The first paragraph just totally misses the point. This being that Ares embodies the concept of war, as an actual abstract universal, because Gods aren't just dudes arbitrarily claiming that a given facet of reality is their own. So Nate noting that this embodiment spans "every plane and every...
  20. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    Noted.
  21. Ultima_Reality

    Lord of the Rings Discussion Thread

    Eru is explicitly stated to not be a "god among gods" but something fundamentally above everything else, and the text goes out of its way to note that the Valar are ultimately no nearer to him than anything else is (Contextually, it seems the statement would apply to them before entering Ëa...
  22. Ultima_Reality

    Lord of the Rings Discussion Thread

    "Are there any 'bounds to a writer's job' except those imposed by his own finiteness? No bounds, but the laws of contradiction, I should think. But, of course, humility and an awareness of peril is required. A writer may be basically 'benevolent' according to his lights (as I hope I am) and yet...
  23. Ultima_Reality

    Lord of the Rings Discussion Thread

    This is interesting. Have you the scans of that?
  24. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    On and on it turns, the wheel. Noted.
  25. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    Noted.
  26. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    Noted.
  27. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    Yeah, I'm content to wait a little for them.
  28. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    Noted.
  29. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    This is the one that actually interests me, to clarify: My response to this is that a lot of the "counterexamples" given are not actually counterexamples, since they're either: 1. Talking about something else that's not really the same thing as what's being pitched as the underlying concept of...
  30. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    Noted. True. Agree: Ultima_Reality (thread starter), Antvasima, Sir_Ovens, Maverick_Zero_X, DarkDragonMedeus, Elizhaa, Mr. Bambu, DarkGrath, Planck69, CrimsonStarFallen, Theglassman12, IdiosyncraticLawyer, KLOL506, CloverDragon03 Neutral: Agnaa, Firestorm808 Disagree: DontTalkDT, Deagonx
  31. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    Noted.
  32. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    Noted.
  33. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    Noted.
  34. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    Noted.
  35. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    Oh, that. I thought you were talking about the paradox stuff, since you mentioned "philosophers who find reasonable flaws with Ultima's described basis for the tier." Yeah, that's stuff I already deem addressed in the summary above, both in my clarifications that not every notion of "oneness" is...
  36. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    See this post, and the one below it. Basically, the back-and-forth started because I described Tier 0 using wording like "Beyond qualities" and "Unity of all attributes." Deagon objected because he thought that, by "qualities" and "attributes," I meant grammatical adjectives and such, which led...
  37. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    Yeah, I kind of figured that those didn't really need to be there, since you basically summarized your stance a few posts up from my summary anyway. I see some of those discontentments as basically falling under the ones I've listed already, so, to give a quick overview of how. Not really for...
  38. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    Noted. Not sure. The majority of people generally are not interested in threads of this nature, and I'd rather not disturb them needlessly, hence I only pinged people who previously participated here. Up to you, in the end.
  39. Ultima_Reality

    Tiering System Revisions: Tier 0

    Noted.
  40. Ultima_Reality

    The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

    Yap Expansion: Malevolent Ramble.
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