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EL_xWatcher1234x
EL_xWatcher1234x
Don't know about this feat, but both Hajime and Yue could find the position of different worlds and the distance between them.
‘It’s pointless no matter where you hide. After all I already remember your face and also this world’s coordinate. Eh? Eh?’, with a yakuza face that seemed to say that, Yue-sama crouched beside the star tree Lutria and glared at her. Ch 343
More energy=range
Using the airship to travel instead of the Crystal Key would help preserve Hajime’s mana, which he would need if he was attempting more concept magic. He’d also need to conserve his mana to get back home. Opening a gateway to earth would take far more mana than Hajime possessed. At least 4-5 times as much as his maximum mana pool. And while he did have his Gate Keys, which used comparatively little mana, he could only use them to open portals to locations he’d set up Gate Holes in beforehand. Since he’d only developed the Gate Key after returning to the capital, he hadn’t been able to set a hall in Erisen yet. Vol 10 p248
「……Well, doesn’t matter. If it’s thanks say it too Shizuku and others. If they didn’t ask me I won’t purposefully spent magic power like stupid to come here. This world is absurdly far just so you know.」Ch 277
「Tsu, no, reaction?」

「……Hajime?」

The compass’s effective range was in proportion with the amount of magic power poured into it.

With the magic power he poured right now, just a mere distance from here to Akiba, no, even if it was anywhere in Japan the compass would be able to cover it. And yet, there was no reaction. Shia wasn’t within the search range.

Hajime leaped down from the bed and his magic power surged even more. As expected, there was no way the activation of magic power that tremendous would be unnoticed. Downstairs he could feel Tio was taken aback. The sound of her immediately going up the stairs in hurry could be heard. Ch 336
「……Hajime. Shia?」

「She isn’t in earth. She is in another world that isn’t Tortus.」

「Muh, doth that mean she was summoned by someone ?」Ch 336
「Tio, call Kaori and others. Our magic power stock is unreliable after the previous gate opening. In preparation of the worst case, I want to keep in reserve a stock of magic crystal so we will be able to return right away.」

「We art going to collect the stock for going there from those with magic power? So it’s not enough with just us, Shia hast been sent to a really far away place.」Ch 336
Well, setting that aside……Hajime ignored Kousuke’s blank stare.

「I often mentioned distance when talking about the necessary magic power requirement for teleporting, but to be more accurate, the required amount is actually in proportion to the strength of the “world’s gap”. The physical distance doesn’t really matter.」

「In other words, the gap between Tortus and this world is thinner than with the desert world?」Ch 378
「With my remaining magic power――the energy can only open the path to other world for five seconds. The older kids should carry the others as many as they can. If they don’t hurry when the gate is opened, they’ll be left behind.」Ch 378

The interval is mentioned again
Tio pressed her hands in prayer inside her heart. If Shia was sent into another world accidentally because the border that separated the worlds were shaking or something, then that was still alright. Ch 336
Shaking=weakened

The condition to travelling the realms is weakning the interval, but this is not the case for Hajime. Which is why a lot of characters who could travel them were surprised by this feat.
Lloydblitzed
Lloydblitzed
Maybe HD Manip for Hajime?
Digital_Franz
Digital_Franz
Determining the position of each world is a feat of ported. At least Low Multiverse. As for Hajime's journey, I don't really know. I would say a Greater Dimensional Travel.
EL_xWatcher1234x
EL_xWatcher1234x
More evidence for it being a higher dimension ?
According to the explanation, hero referred to someone with the qualification to become the protector of the “World Tree’s Branch”.

In other words it was the same existence like the avatar of “World Tree’s Branch” like Aularodde, but in case of avatar, they also functioned as the last fortress, so they fundamentally were unable to separate from the “Branch”.

When the world’s balance was starting to go out of order due to internal or external calamity or due to conflict and the like among the lives of that world, the “hero” would shoulder the role of balancer as the hands and feet of the avatar.

That was why, when the avatar sought help and carried out a summoning, it would definitely get connected to the hero. Also, it was because the hero was an existence with the quality that the World Tree recognized, the hero was able to pass through the gap between worlds. Though as the side effect of that, when a hole was drilled open in the gap between worlds, most of the time it would also get connected to the hero. Ch 386
(Kouki is a 5D Isekai magnet)

There is also Ehit saying that he needed a body to leave Tortus. Proving that the Interval is trapping concepts, conception and souls inside each realm.
Digital_Franz
Digital_Franz
Hmm. Yeah? Maybe.
Lloydblitzed
Lloydblitzed
Seems like the hero may have some kind of HD Manip, or is a Higher Dimensional Existence to begin with
EL_xWatcher1234x
EL_xWatcher1234x
More like blessed(cursed) by the world tree that make him a portals magnet.

If you try to summon randomly, you'll always get the hero.
EL_xWatcher1234x
EL_xWatcher1234x
From the short stories collection:"The Miraculous meeting..."

The spirit whale city
This abandoned capital didn’t actually exist anywhere within the real world. It had once stood where the sea they’d come from was, but the seal had transported it into a gap between dimensions. Basically, this whole space was a city-sized Treasure Trove.

And because the whale was also the product of that ancient civilization, it too possessed the power to transcend space and time. However, its power had been greatly weakened, so it could only transport people here once, and only people who visited the particular stretch of sea the capital had once been on. Meaning this was the only chance anyone would ever have to repair this seal. Restoration magic wouldn’t be enough to do it because a lot of the damage to the seal was too old to be realistically recovered. It would take more mana than anyone in the world possessed. Which was why the whale had needed to bring in people who could analyze the seal and rebuild it from the ground up, namely Synergists who could use creation magic. Not only that, Synergists with more skill and mana than either Hajime or Oscar possessed individually.

“So it brought you and Oscar-oniisan together even though you’re from different times, Daddy! It made a miracle!” p259

It's range
While they’d been traveling to Hajime, it had told them the gist of the situation. Apparently, the whale was the guardian of this destroyed city. Long ago, this city had been brought to ruin by the same monsters that were flooding out of the castle. Those monsters had actually been created by human hands, and the strongest of them made the nigh-immortal Hell Eater Hajime and the others had just recently fought look cute.

But, as it always went in stories like this, the people had been unable to control the monsters they’d created, and brought their empire to ruin. However, they’d at least had the tenacity and the good sense to seal away the monsters they’d created. But to do so, they’d needed to use the whale as a cornerstone.


Now, centuries or perhaps millennia later, the seal had been weakened to the point where it was nearly gone. If the lynchpin of the seal, the tower that the whale was fused with, broke, then the ancient evil horrors would regain their full strength and would start terrorizing people across all worlds and all times. p259

The whale used mist to teleport them
The fog rolled over the submarine, engulfing it. It was thick enough that people standing on opposite sides of the deck wouldn’t be able to see each other. It reminded Hajime of the fog in the Haltina Woods. Everyone quickly formed a protective circle around Myu and Remia. p212
Of course, Myu had no idea what the creature was, either. But it seemed she was sensing something from it. Something inside her was telling Myu that they couldn’t hurt it, and Hajime could tell from the earnest look in her eyes that she sincerely believed that. She just couldn’t express it in words. While Hajime was hesitating, their surroundings continued to transform. The whirlwind of mist sped up until they were surrounded by a wall of fog, making it look like they were in the eye of a storm. But the sky above them wasn’t clear, like it would be in a normal storm. It, too, was covered in swirling dense fog. But instead of sucking up the surrounding water, the fog hurricane was pushing it away, creating a crater in the ocean.“Does it mean to drag us down to the bottom of the ocean?”

“It’s strange... I can sense mana from everything around us, both the fog and the water.

"Hajime-san, I think we’ll be okay! I’m not seeing any future where we die, at least!” p214

The whale erased their memory of this adventure or Acausality ?
Looking down at his watch, he noticed almost no time had passed since the last thing he remembered. Hajime slowly got to a sitting position, careful not to push Remia or Myu off. p273
Digital_Franz
Digital_Franz
I see possible Low Multiversal Range, Teleportation, Memory Manipulation and maybe BFR/Time Travel.
EL_xWatcher1234x
EL_xWatcher1234x
And time travel or the ability to leave space-time and entering it at a different points in time.


I asking if it add anything to the cosmology. Even with the ability to transcend space-time, the whale couldn't escape the space that contain the nine realm(Branch) further indicating that it's a higher dimension.
Digital_Franz
Digital_Franz
Entering different points in time is just Time Travel. In itself, no it doesn't add anything to the cosmology. Transcending space and time really doesn't mean anything without context. For example a character using teleportation can say that he transcends space and time to reach his destination.
EL_xWatcher1234x
EL_xWatcher1234x
The context here is that the whale can escape the realm through transcending its space-time and entering it again from a different point in time. This is not limited to a single universe.

It's real body is the tower that exist outside the nine realms in the gap, while the whale can enter the realms for being just its avatar.

BTW, the tower and the whale were weakened.
EL_xWatcher1234x
EL_xWatcher1234x
We know that regular space-time manipulation is still limited to a single realm, but what do you get for exiting inside the gap ?
Digital_Franz
Digital_Franz
Said like that yeah it's interesting. Currently with the thing of existing between the gap which must not have space-time and transcending space and time it can give BDE Type 1.
EL_xWatcher1234x
EL_xWatcher1234x
After rereading

1) Both the whale and tower can transcend space-time, and both of them were created using ancient magic.

2) The tower is a seal, that prevent people from entering or leaving this dimension, except the whale.

3) Instead repairing it with time magic, Hajime and Oscar needed to understand the tower and rebuilt it from the ground up.
Wankbreaker
Wankbreaker
What did you want me to look at?
EL_xWatcher1234x
EL_xWatcher1234x
Could you check all the comments and see if you could find any form HDE and HD manipulation, or anyrhing that could be used for AP and Range ?
Digital_Franz
Digital_Franz
As I said the range is at least Low Multiversal. There is no indication of AP. And also the transcendence thing can help for BDE Type 1.
EL_xWatcher1234x
EL_xWatcher1234x
Thanks, but I still need others opinion to make sure when I make a CRT.
Wankbreaker
Wankbreaker
Forgor, but i agree with Digital_Franz
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