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Phoenks
Phoenks
I don't understand
Rockysbalboa
Rockysbalboa
Sorry, I will try to explain it in an easier way

Now I want to add nep 3 , nep 3 negation , acausality 4 , acausality 4 negation to my character

My character exists in a state of both being and not existing and that makes it inherently ambiguous, so I think it should give it nep 3 like schrodinger's cat or both dead and alive.

For Acausality 4, it states that this space is timeless and that the character's daughter and son-in-law cannot interact with it and will not even be aware of it (i.e. characters in the normal causal system cannot interact with it)

He can interact with acausality 4 characters and nep 3 people because of this;

First of all, this state of non-existence is formed as follows; time is divided into two and the character states that he exists and does not exist, then time is divided into 4 and the more unstable it is, the stronger it becomes and the character can use a stone to interact with other states of non-existence with this stone (this means that he can interact with characters with more than one acausality 4 and nep 3 state)

In fact, if you ask me, this is a much more powerful ability that cannot be limited to nep 3, but I am happy if I can get it accepted first.
The_forgetten
The_forgetten
When you add existence and non-existence, it can be nep3 because it has a binary state that can exist in both states. If it includes the existence states like a stone that has existed since the beginning of time as a broken stone and will never be broken, it can be an example, but aca4 may need more context and WoG context as a quality. In other words, I am not in favor of giving pain4 just because no effect can be established. I think that this causality can be given if there is a context and situation that can be used for a main situation that is compatible with causality on the plane at a certain time or in a canon situation.
The_forgetten
The_forgetten
And I'm sorry for my english is so bad
The_forgetten
The_forgetten
Also, he doesn't get a negative just because he interacted with another aca4 while he was already in the upper causality state. This must be deliberately bypassing a feature he doesn't have.
The_forgetten
The_forgetten
If haven't more than higher layer
Rockysbalboa
Rockysbalboa
Well, actually I know these things, but my purpose of asking the admins is to add it to the profile by approving my own revision, but for acausality 4, yes, it would be better if there is more context, but I think there is no need for this because the characters in the normal causal system cannot interact with it and are completely unaware of them, and the plane where our character is located is also said to be independent of time, that is, it can be said to be independent of normal causality and at the same time it depicts it as a time-independent purgatory, which means that people in the normal causal system cannot reach. It emphasizes that it is a space and it is a limbo that we can call a timeless nothingness because it is a state that is defined as nothingness and does not exist but at the same time exists for our character, so it is a resistance to the manipulation of nothingness and our character can switch to normal causality by attaching the collars he invented to himself at any time and can be involved in space-time, so I think he should get bde 1, and there is another ability that I am not sure he should get, and this is ND1 because I think he can get ND1 because the character exists in a state of both existence and non-existence and neither existence nor non-existence.
Rockysbalboa
Rockysbalboa
No, our character can reduce characters that are aca 4 (characters on his plane) to the normal causal system by attaching his invention to them, and he can do this in different ways without a leash.


And I don't understand what you mean if there is no high layer.


Anyway, I need to sleep, I'll check when the day opens.
The_forgetten
The_forgetten
What you say is useful as a description, because of the cause and effect relationships that occur in the temporal dimension, which is the 1-dimensional coordinate plane of space-time continuum, this independence or N4 can be given for a higher situation, in fact, only the existence and non-existence of the character is addressed, this situation affects the character physiologically and cosmologically. It can be seen, that is, it is completely nothing, but it may be a bit ridiculous to say that it exists for the character. I think that the character can be given nep1 for this situation. For ND1, it can be possible if there is a level of non-existence or independence that would be dual for dual existence states on the cosmological scale at a consistent level.
The_forgetten
The_forgetten
You misunderstood me, what I said is that what I understand is that a character with N4 can affect the character in the same causal plane where it exists. If this expression of influence is just an interaction, of course, this will not happen. I fully understand what you say now, but in order for it to receive Nd4 type neg. Basically, what you say is that the character with that level of feature can be harmed by ignoring the Nd4 feature while he is completely deprived of it. Since the character with ND4 level can interact with the character on the same plane, you cannot get a neg from here, but a layered causality manipulation can be given for the causality level reduction event. By higher layer, I mean affecting a higher level of causality with a hierarchical position, and I hope you sleep well.
Rockysbalboa
Rockysbalboa
You misunderstood the part about causality type 4 negation. Yes, a character with an aca 4 can interact with another aca 4 if we don't count layered aca 4s, but here's the thing; my character is both present and absent on the plane he is on, so when someone attacks him, he will behave as if he is present when someone attacks him.NEP 3 and ASPECT gives NEP 5 because this character is a human being and by its very nature cannot sustain uncertainty and thus lacks the state of being that would be necessary for its existence. In addition, this plane is inaccessible to characters in normal causality, which basically supports NEP 4 and says that it is a timeless space, so the character is both unaffected by time here and in a different causal system because he is an uncertain cause compared to characters in a causal system that only exists in a state of being and non-existence. Already in the chapter it says that the greater the uncertainty, the greater this effect will be.


As for the Acausality 4 negation, this character can return it to its previous state by pressing a button (if it is stable, that is, if it is not ambiguous) and reduce that state of non-existence to mere existence, and in the same way, it converts this causal system to normal causality at the same time. The reason why this happens is that in order to access this plane, you must have both aca 4 and nep 3 (but I think our character has nep 3 negation, so it may not make sense)

So the character can switch to normal causality by pressing the button

Or the character can switch to the normal causal system by putting the collar he invented on himself. If he takes the collar off, those causal systems are further divided and become more complex, so from here he needs to get acausality 4 negation and nep 3 negation because the character can do this in different ways.

After the character stops time on a universal scale to switch to this causal system, after a period of 6 months, the balance of time is disturbed and they switch to this state when they are uncertain


So he has 3 ways to get this ability and 2 options in acausality 4 nep 3 nep 3 negation and acausality 4 negation


In addition, the character can be involved in Spacetime at any time and can be independent of it and deprived of it, which I hope should give him BDE 1

In addition, the character is in a state of existence and non-existence, but at the same time he describes it as a timeless purgatory, purgatory means nothingness in short, and the parts that support that it is nothingness are that it is timeless, it is superior to causality, it is superior to causality, the existence and non-existence states become strange and so on, so I think it is resistance to Void manipulation.


In addition, our character can have Nep 1 at the same time, as you said, because it defines this place as nothingness at the same time, as I said, but nep 1 does not mean that

For nep 1 you must first be intangible and then you must be in total nothingness and you can affect a character with nep 1 with NPI but that is not possible here


As for ND 1, it's not a good ability anyway, so it's not worth the effort, but let me point out that when the character is both present and absent, this time is broken again and divided into 4, so it can probably be both present and absent, neither present nor absent, so maybe ND 1, but this could probably be layered causality type 4.


Now, as you said, I can't get my head around this; a character with aca 4 can interact with others and yes, this is not negation, but my character can reduce them to the normal causal system, which loses the original feature of aca 4, but there may be layered causality manipulation, I found it logical, but I think this can also be acausality 4 negation.


In addition to these, I think these are the skills that should be added

Resistance to manipulation of fate (timeless and characters in the normal causal system cannot interact with it)
Precognitive resistance (for the same reason)
Resistance to causality manipulation (a non-layered causality manipulation cannot overcome this because it is in different causal system)
Resistance to time manipulation and stopping (explained)
Resistance to manipulation of nothingness (I explained)
Layered causality manipulation (we agree)

NEP aspect type 5 (lacks aspects necessary for its existence)
1 - NEP 3 and NEP 3 negation (he can come to this state at will and negate NEP 3 in 2 different ways;

1 - reduce a person to the state of being by wearing the collar

2 - by pressing the button he can reduce everyone who is stable to normal causality and existence)

Acausality type 4 and acausality type 4 negation (same reasons as above)


Note: after stopping time on a universal scale, 6 months passed and time was divided due to uncertainty

Additional abilities; can see how many of a character's presence/absence states a character has (this can be used by analyzing information about characters with transdual, nondual, NEP 3 and finally acausality 4), or can leave them in this causal system and save and destroy them.
Rockysbalboa
Rockysbalboa
The_forgetten
The_forgetten
Hmm then keep trying dude,I'll write in crt
Rockysbalboa
Rockysbalboa
Ty I organizing my crt when we talked about this haxs I organized it
Rockysbalboa
Rockysbalboa
And phoenks can you visit my crt pls
The_forgetten
The_forgetten
Okey I'll coming rn
The_forgetten
The_forgetten
Olm crt'yi bulamadım link varsa atsana
Rockysbalboa
Rockysbalboa
Yukarda attım da oğlum sen Türk müydün ve sen kimdin aq
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