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Planck69
Planck69
We have no reason to assume that, especially considering that the telltale sign of his movement would be his fist launch.

That and FTL feats are more consistent for Soul Formation+Transformation levels anyway. The former is more of a minor anti-feat.
kamangir16
But it was just said he was deep in we know that at that time he was in the middle but after that we just can assume he was deep in it also there is another anti feat that happened several times which said that just Ascendant cultivators can teleport more than 50000 kilometers and this was a speed that was very high for wang lin.
Also another question in issth until about chapter 800 the scaling was very high and was in milions of kilometer but then after that until going to other mountain and sea realms the scale suddenly drop to round numbers like 33000 meters or 300 meter and so on do we consider this outlier or tge things in the start of the series ( i ask this for patriarch soul formation speed that comes from scaling it to milions of kilometer that was stated for his true body but after that we didn't have something near this scale .
kamangir16
Also i don't have peoblem with ftl wang lin just don't think this reason is good to be used also i have little problem with the reason for Nascent Soul cultivators being light speed because of the nature of quote can most likely be for literature
Planck69
Planck69
1. There's no reason for use to assume he arbitrarily moved upwards. The alternative you suggest requires more assumptions than this one, which isn't how calculations work.

2. Teleportation range isn't speed so I don't know why you brought it up.

3. That's just AoE fallacy. Unless there's a specific instance where a planet was described as a smaller size for some reason.
Nepuko
Nepuko
The figure literally flew out. It's movement, so it counts as speed and isn't teleportation. If it was telportation there would no "flew out", no cracks in the first place...

In ISSTH, it's the 30km part that is actually PIS. It was used for a PIS (Plot-Induced Stupidity, they have a page on it on vsbw I think) as after that, it returned to the usual values shown in novels and earlier part of ISSTH. With Reliance Spirit Severing clone for example scanning the entirety of Zhao with divine sense and similar thing, which is millions of miles in circumference.
Planck69
Planck69
He's more questioning that Wang Lin's clone was at the core. Which also makes little sense.
Planck69
Planck69
Anyway, you can ask Nep or me in the morning, I'm going to bed soon.
kamangir16
Ok thanks it was just that it was bothering me because there was a lot of variation in the novel and the fact that the speed and scale vary a little too much . Also my argument about wng lin wasn't that he teleported to the surface mine was that in just a few chapter after that the different between his speed ( which was clearly stated was much lower than his speed in here . And i was implying that in the time that he come back and throw the punch we just know that he was deep in the moon and we aren't sure if he was still in the center of the moon or not and the fact that he could have move higher so he can come out of the moon because he know that his true body was coming( and there wasn't any other saying there other than being deep in the moon . And planck said that i can't assume it and being in the middle is a better position for assuming . And my word is that isn't better to not use these feat because of a few anti feat in a few chapters after it and the fact that there aren't many data for him being in the middle and the anti feats ( also i didn't tell the teleportation for speed rather for the fact that there is pouse between each teleportation because of it's limited distance and that it should gave use vague understanding of characters speed ) but if you don't wanna consider it no problem My argument isn't really base on it .
Also i belive that ergen didn't really make all of them in the same scale ( i know they should have the same power because of same universe and same cultivation system but if you look at it there are many different things that effect writers writing like forgetting or don't caring and want to have new thing .like for example ED writer .
Anyway in general if there is a valid high tier feat can we ignore the other valid but lower tier feats ?? ( these a real question i had because of problems i encounter in reading novels in general )
kamangir16
But anyway thanks for replying there isn't really a need to answer the first half ( because i already know your points and what you're gonna say and continuing it is without purpose ) but please answer the last half because that's a thing that is bothering me for a period
Planck69
Planck69
If it's valid then we can ignore low-end showings. In this case, Wang Lins scales above Patriarch Reliance's feat and Feng Qiuran's dodging of a light beam at point blank range so it's decently consistent enough to scale.

I hope there isn't anything else left, is there?
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