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Ultima_Reality
Ultima_Reality
1. Yeah.

2. Part 2.5 revisions, like I said. That'd also be when you'd get to discuss Doom's stuff, since Part 2 will be for discussion the tiering of the Omniversal Abstracts and up.
Eseseso
Eseseso
1. Great!

2. Ok.

2.5. I also might bring up that God Emperor Doom should probably scale to the individual Beyonders instead of just scaling above the IG, although since the IG is gonna be Low 1-A as well that likely won't be a problem.
Ultima_Reality
Ultima_Reality
Well, as you can see by my sandbox page, I'm planning to upgrade the Beyonders to High 1-A, and even putting that aside, they're 1-A due to transcending the omniverse, so, yeah, it will be a problem.

With that said, there probably is an argument for saying Doom scales to High 1-A as well, yeah, given that his will overrode what seemed to be the Omniversal Eternity in the Outside, so we'll probably have to consider the Infinity Gauntlet holding him off for a little bit to be PIS, still.
Eseseso
Eseseso
I saw your sandbox, but I know that the Beyonders do vary in power outside of their realm and Doom IIRC didn't get all of their power.

I mean, we could just make the IG a Low 1-A, possibly higher or something like that, though since the Living Tribunal is superior to the IG that may be an issue. Maybe it was just PIS.
Ultima_Reality
Ultima_Reality
Yeah, the Infinity Gauntlet has its fair share of anti-feats that make it difficult to put it any higher. Thanos passed out from the effort of beating Eternity, and the Infinity Stones shattered from the strain of keeping a single reality from colliding with Earth-616. So Low 1-A is best for it methinks.

I won't deny that Doom himself could very well be just Low 1-A, too, given that Reed when given the same power as him could only recreate universes one at a time. Maybe his will becoming Eternity's has more to do with Eternity's nature than any power-related thing.
Eseseso
Eseseso
Maybe.

But he should scale to an individual Beyonder IMO.

Either way he should be a High 1-A with prep since he made the bomb which killed all the Beyonders.
Ultima_Reality
Ultima_Reality
Eseseso
Eseseso
I know I'm a fan of his, but my God, his prep levels of power are utterly mind-boggling even to me.

If you need my help with anything lemme know, and I look forward to the 2nd part of the CRT.

P.S. The Celestials being tier 1 makes sense due to a what-if where they were able to fight Doom with IIRC the powers of pre-retcon Beyonder for 500 years. They lost, but still.
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