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Omazio2019
Omazio2019
Infinite colors began to take shape. He saw that it was countless scenes, at first it was just an explosion of color
With understanding, overwhelmed in feeling. He recognizes everything
What he's seeing right now - what he thinks is "the world". They are spreading out ahead
Omazio2019
Omazio2019
And here is another:無限に広がる無数の世界。そしてそのすべてで、それの歴史が輝いているのだ。無数 の世界の、無数 の物語。そしてー無数の悪と敵意もまた。(Infinite world. And in all of that, its history is shining. Countless stories of countless worlds. And-myriad of evil and hostility.)
Jamesthetaker
Jamesthetaker
On the first comment, it is more like flowery language rather than reference to actual universe. Even if so, it only referred to countless world which are 2-B by wiki standard so it won't change anything because KR verse are currently sitting at 2-B.

I cannot confirmed the second sentence, unfortunately. You should ask an Japanese-speaking member and post the full phrase.
Omazio2019
Omazio2019
and saver had united with the world and trancident space time:世界とー体化した、悪霊を相手に為す術はあるのか?(Is there a way to deal with the intangible evil spirits that are united with the world? ).
その男は、確かに生死を超えたのだろう。肉体の束縛から解放され、三千世界と融和した超越者なのだろう。時間を超え、空間を超えーしかし、それ故に男は末来を持たなかった。(The man must have surpassed life and death. He must be a transcendent who has been freed from physical bondage and integrated with the three thousand worlds. Beyond time and space-but therefore the man has no future.)
Jamesthetaker
Jamesthetaker
I assuming you're using Google to translate so based on these sentences:

Transcended space-time won't affect anything expect giving him Non-Corporeal and maybe Higher-D Existence.

Surpassed life and death only give him type 5 Immortality, nothing else.

The phrase referred to three thousand worlds which are just 2-B.

None of those proven that KR cosmology are 2-A. Sorry to disappoint you but you better try again.
Omazio2019
Omazio2019
infinite colors i think it would be scenes of infinite worlds,countless scenes just what he saw cause there might other scenes he hadn't seen in yahoo jp i saw they said 無限に広がる無数の世界=infinite universes .Btw if he united with worlds he could be omnipresent and omniscienes right?
Omazio2019
Omazio2019
james can i ask you a question: since he united with three thousand worlds and resurrected repeatly could that be the sign of abstract type 2, in picture translate app i used kugai said that there is nothing impossible for him to became the golden fruit and one with the world,he is the root of evolution,the golden fruit itself they can't destroy him by any means,the other rider blown him up once but they heard his sound from nowhere and he appeared without any harm.
Jamesthetaker
Jamesthetaker
For the first comment, "united" have different meaning. Depend on the context, it could be that he fused with those worlds (like God Zamasu case, for example) or that he merged those worlds together which result in 2-B rating.

For the second, it's hard to say without an proper translation.
Omazio2019
Omazio2019
「私は黄金の果実を手にした!否、私をこそが進化の根源、黄金の果実そのものだ ! もはや如何なる手段を用いても、私を滅ぼすことはできない!」("I got the golden fruit! No, I am the root(or source) of evolution, the golden fruit itself! You can no longer destroy me by any means!" )

びと共にセイヴァーが爆裂四散する。(Saber explodes and scatters.)
しかし、それでもまだー。(But still.)
「無駄だ ........無駄なのだ ......!」("It's useless ........ It's useless ...!")
どこからともなく供界の声が聞こえー。(I can hear the voice of the world from nowhere. )
黄金の輝きは失われ、汚れた紅と澱んだ闇色に染まっていたが、再びセイヴアーが無傷のまま現れる。(The golden glow was lost, dyed in dirty crimson and stagnant darkness, but the saver reappears unharmed. )

「黄金の果実となり、世界とひとつになった私を滅ぼす術はない.......もう理解しているのだろう?」(" There is no way to destroy me as a golden fruit and one with the world .... Do you already understand?" )

あんたが本当に救いたかつたのは....世界に融けて消えちまつた自分自身じゃないのか?(What you really saved was ... Isn't it yourself who melted into the world and disappeared? )

世界に融けて消えた彼へ贈る、もうどこにも届かない言葉。(A word that can't be reached anywhere, given to him who has melted into the world and disappeared. )
Jamesthetaker
Jamesthetaker
I don't see this being AE type 2, because Abstract Existence required the person embody an certain concept like time or space, in this case the context doesn't implied that root of evolution is abstract in anyways. At best this is Non-Corporeal and likely Omnipresence, combined with the statements above would translated into this:

Saver post-ascended integrated with three thousand worlds, become a higher being that surpassed life and death.

Although, i think that it is still better if you can find someone to confirm the Japanese text.
Omazio2019
Omazio2019
Oh a little change from the first passage he has come close to omniscience not omnipotent.
Jamesthetaker
Jamesthetaker
So, Nigh-Omniscience too huh?
Omazio2019
Omazio2019
kudo said dj sagara is a concept,a god or a devil.If(just if) he is a concept, which concept do you think he embody?
Omazio2019
Omazio2019
この男は人間ではない。いや、そもそも生命であるか さえ。もっと超常的な存在、概念。神か、悪魔か、それとも。( This man is not human . No, even life in the first place. A more paranormal existence, a concept. God, devil, or.)
Jamesthetaker
Jamesthetaker
Hmm, that sound too ambiguous though. The context only implied so doesn't prove much for him to embody a concept or anything. You would need more concrete evidence to prove that he is a concept.
Omazio2019
Omazio2019
Do you think KR verse can up to 2A through this?
Jamesthetaker
Jamesthetaker
No, nothing you've posted proven that KR is 2-A. The first comment barely indicate the number of universes but a sentence of flowery language, even if it does then it only implied of countless worlds which aren't different from our current rating. The following comments center around Saver only without having anything to do with the cosmology.
Omazio2019
Omazio2019
James @Maruishimaryishi replied to me that 無限に広がる無数の世界 is countless worlds spreading infinitely about numbers so this kinda like sento+tsukasa statement at the same time, countless worlds each branching to other worlds infinitely.
Jamesthetaker
Jamesthetaker
Hmm, i don't think that is a 2-A statement, it's mostly a solid 2-B rating which we already have. It told that countless worlds spreading infinitely which are uncountable number of worlds that keep spreading to the point that you cannot stop counting rather then saying that there is infinite amount of worlds.
Omazio2019
Omazio2019
i think countless worlds keep spreading,expanding its number infinitely can be infinite worlds beside infinitely colourful colors blow could make scenes of infinite worlds and the colors not just blow once.
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