That doesn't mean they didn't fight
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XXKINGXX69
LephyrTheRevanchist
But they didn't. Straight up, they didn't. The Presence was even shown in ST to be completely beyond Creation, in a realm analogue to The Source (described as a place with no time and no space), completely above the duality of light and dark. Quite literally, the Light that embraced The Great Evil's darkness wasn't even the "true" Presence.
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Like, the conflict Etrigan cites is simply a metaphor for the endless battle between good and evil and how this shapes Creation (a metaphor for the superhero genre, later expanded and explored in issue #75 of ST)
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Like, the conflict Etrigan cites is simply a metaphor for the endless battle between good and evil and how this shapes Creation (a metaphor for the superhero genre, later expanded and explored in issue #75 of ST)
Armorchompy
lmaoooooo
Armorchompy
Mind you it does stomp the Spectre in the same run. Not that that would scale to John in any way.
XXKINGXX69
Scans?
XXKINGXX69
Who stomps Spectre?
Armorchompy
the great evil.
LephyrTheRevanchist
Mate, I'm gonna be real honest with you: If you don't even know the context of the stuff you are trying to argue, don't bring it up.
And yes, The Great Evil stomped Etrigan, Doctor Fate and Spectre until Swamp Thing came and taught him duality.
And yes, The Great Evil stomped Etrigan, Doctor Fate and Spectre until Swamp Thing came and taught him duality.
Armorchompy
that just means the swamp thing upscales silly. High 1-A social influencing.
LephyrTheRevanchist
Well, he did reached the perspective of The Presence while meditating
XXKINGXX69
What does that have to do with what I said? Doesn't contradict it fighting the presence
Armorchompy
bro, that simply does not happen. like, etrigan thinks it will, but it doesn't, learn to read
LephyrTheRevanchist
Because... They never... Fight. It's literally a plot point in the issue itself how they don't fight, but instead embrace each other.
Like, this is your "fight", right there. Lots of destruction as you can see.
Like, this is your "fight", right there. Lots of destruction as you can see.
LephyrTheRevanchist
And to top it all off, that Light is not even The Presence portrayed in Swamp Thing. Notice how it's never called God.
Here you can see The Presence
Here you can see The Presence
XXKINGXX69
Where does it say they are embracing each other without fighting? Because its even implied that either could destroy the other and was going to destroy heaven. The Darkness is also the source of all human magic, and Atlantean magic, which would obviously include ones that are Presence tier or greater
Armorchompy
Just... stop
LephyrTheRevanchist
Did you read?
"The Light... The Dark... They're going to fight... Everything will be destroyed..."
"They're almost touching... They are..."
"They're clasping... flowing... running together..."
"Everything swirling... Everyone falling... I can see it... I can see it all!..."
"No, doesn't make sense! I don't understand!"
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Simply: They didn't fight, instead they embraced, in harmony and balance; yin & yang, light & dark; good & evil; duality. It didn't make sense, why didn't they fight, indeed? That was the whole point. They achieved balance thanks to ST.
"The Light... The Dark... They're going to fight... Everything will be destroyed..."
"They're almost touching... They are..."
"They're clasping... flowing... running together..."
"Everything swirling... Everyone falling... I can see it... I can see it all!..."
"No, doesn't make sense! I don't understand!"
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Simply: They didn't fight, instead they embraced, in harmony and balance; yin & yang, light & dark; good & evil; duality. It didn't make sense, why didn't they fight, indeed? That was the whole point. They achieved balance thanks to ST.
XXKINGXX69
"Everything swirling... Everyone falling... I can see it... I can see it all!.." Sounds like they were fighting. And this is what I was talking about, where its implied either of them could win. If the darkness doesnt scale to God, nobody would think of either side being destroyed, only the Darkness. And the "light" its fighting is obviously God, that's what GEB referred to it as
LephyrTheRevanchist
No. It's literally the opposite. If they had fought, as it's mentioned, everything would've been destroyed. Instead, they flowed between each other in harmony, with even the visuals showing us the symbol of yin and yang, with the guy completely confused why they aren't fighting at all.
The Light it's God's, but it's not the god. Also, everyone's opinion of The Great Evil was outright shown to be mistaken, only ST stopped to actually consider things through, based on what the Parliament of Trees taught him. If you wouldn't stop to take out of context scans, you would understand this.
The Light it's God's, but it's not the god. Also, everyone's opinion of The Great Evil was outright shown to be mistaken, only ST stopped to actually consider things through, based on what the Parliament of Trees taught him. If you wouldn't stop to take out of context scans, you would understand this.