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The thread already hit 7 votes for Bayo, wasn't getting added and you were derailing with comments about the votes being brainless.

I had every reason to close that thread

I still had some things to say regarding stuff you said about ikki though. But eh it derailed enough so imma just say it here.

Before that I will say (as much as I feel like it was an option select from you) I apologise for misunderstanding your intention of the votes.

But besides that. Since you are not a novel reader can you refrain from making claims about rakudai that I haven't made before?

Stuff like "he has never used desperado hax to open a fight" (the example in that thread). Which is straight up wrong and spreads wrong info on the character. So instead of saying stuff and hoping it's true, can you just simply ask? It saves me a lot of trouble.

I still have no idea who spread the "ikki has desperado passives" word around but that thing is more popular than the character itself and I've said no to it for ages but it still happens as you saw in the beginning of the ikki vs bayo thread. It just becomes annoying and hard to stop at some point.

So to avoid from creating more stuff like that, I would like for you (although you're not the only one who does it) to stop stating stuff you don't know about as facts.

I never said he never has, I said rarely (I know he did once against the vermillion guards) but AFAIK That’s the only example, surely nowhere near enough to assume he would lead with it at the start.

Outside of maybe miswording and saying he never had (That’s my bad) none of my points change.

Nah fam, you straight up said never. Talking about this:

Fire, Ikki never has used Desperado hax immediately in his entire existence thus far

And as i've said, that's wrong. Besides the vermillion guards, he also used it to open against Iris (to stop her from going after Stella).

He opened against Iris? Didnt the two fight for some time prior?
I did say never though that’s my bad

Well, after Iris decided to betray them (since Iris was supposed to be on their side). Ikki joins the fight saying he would deal with it and told Stella to chase after Or-Gaule who was trying to run away.

Iris thought Or-Gaule was not capable of winning against Stella on his own so she tried to chase after Stella and Or-Gaule instead of fighting ikki, then ikki did this:

The moment Stella spread her wings, Ascaris tried to take action and shoot her down.
But nothing came of it. She couldn’t make her knees jump up. The fact is that when she was distracted from Stella and looked at Ikki, who had suddenly arrived at them on the battlefield, she felt something sharp, like a thread, touch her neck under the armor.
- ...
It was nothing more than the gravitational pull of Ikki Kurogane's fate.
By intimidating, he made her feel what would happen to her if she was distracted from him.
That is why Iris was forced to set aside measures about Stella, and she flew off safely in pursuit of Or-Goul.
Iris and Ikki. Only they stayed in this residential area of Lucerne.
If you want to help Or-Goul, then you first need to deal with this knight.
Just thinking about it, Iris's neck stabbed again. No doubt his intimidation wished her death. If she did try to stop Stella, Ikki's blade would have sunk into her neck.
He's serious.
Absolutely serious and was about to end her.

Would he just decide to open up with desperado hax? No. But will he open up with it if he deems the situation necessary? Absolutely.

And he uses desperado hax again later to end the fight (used Oikage).

I see

So that's why I say, put things in form of questions instead of saying them with such confidence cus it gives ppl the wrong idea.

"I still have no idea who spread the "ikki has desperado passives" word around but that thing is more popular than the character itself and I've said no to it for ages but it still happens as you saw in the beginning of the ikki vs bayo thread. It just becomes annoying and hard to stop at some point."


You were one of those people at one point, I was trying to find an older NK thread and found that