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Pugao_03
Pugao_03
Pugao_03
Pugao_03
what do you think?
Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E
Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E
There is a lot to take in and add the New stuff (As usual) But I am taking note as we speak (per usual).

I will say for now, I have not updated/bumped yet but I already mentioned the killing sea feat from the Munnkey Dunno user, maybe I'll mention feats to Neko again, but mind you we have not had an update on the SB calcs too, but I'll mention stuff to him again if i can.
Pugao_03
Pugao_03
ok, it's just that I would like to hear another opinion about what I had found, when I finish absorbing everything I'll thank you 🙂
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Pugao_03
but about that video I was sent where El Chapulin supposedly returned to normal after being paralyzed, if this is really true the horn could gain a good reactive evolution.
And his classification of human should be changed, as he has hinted that he is the son of Superman and Lois Lane.
I also found another evidence for the analysis of information from the vinyl antennas, they tell Chapulin what was detected by them. 18:30
and at 31:26 Chapulin was miraculously saved by a villain, in which he won over with his charm making her want to marry him even going against her father
and I forgot to say, but that feat of the waiter pushing a wall can climb to weightlifting for the cast of el chavo
(Wouldn't be surprised if it dropped as class 10)

he may be bragging, but it may serve as little evidence of support for his social influence, where we see that just because he was in a place a madman asked him to surrender
Pugao_03
Pugao_03
But who knows, after the updates, the Black Soul doesn't become a threat like Thanos XD
Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E
Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E
Also I am not ready to reply my thoughts of the feats just yet, but in the mean time I may have had a very random vision dream and implore to share it: What would Chap Vs Eggman (Game Version) look like? I mean if Egg pees on the moon alongside Chap too, all Chap needs is the Horn to stop it. XD

Random as **** I get it, but this was a dream I had. Basically I was Chap and suddenly found myself in THAT CLIP, but the horn stopped it and Eggman (With the same funny abridged voice) said something like "HEY WHAT THE F--THATS NOT FAIR! Awwww!!" And the last I remember was doing the teleporting foolery until I was holding Egg with one arm like in the Space Pirate Episode... That's it, very strange XD.
Pugao_03
Pugao_03
I think it could be a stomp, since Chapulín would teleport inside the eggman's ship even if he was inside a robot and it would paralyze him 🐒
Pugao_03
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a friend of mine said an interesting thing, Chapulín was mentioned as the only threat to Hitler's empire, and besides there being other heroes like super Sam, he also had the bombs of the time.
Basically Hitler considered the Chapulin a threat and the bombs of the time did not.
Pugao_03
Pugao_03
my only doubt is the level that the explosions reached before Hitler's death.
Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E
Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E
Yeah I thought so, Sonic himself on the other hand should be more of a challenge though. But I am back... As long though.

By the way for the talking to Hammer clips, I did label as Multiple Selves, however we need to find that clip where his Hammer acts on its own. Yeah I notes the Hammer staying in said time periods ordeal, which he may have brought back in other aventuras (Of course a supporting Acasuality type 1 ability, given Chap would have caused a major paradox, yet not only is it an instant win but also remains unfazed).

I intially discarded Chapulin "having inexhaustible energy" which if it were true could grant him the whole Self Sustainability type 2/3 (Limitless Stamina ratings), yet we have seen Chapulin slightly winded by beating on a doll or the time he was literally walking thirsty/tired in the totally not a Super Mario Desert Zone comic. Maybe there were other occasions he showed clear limits unless proven otherwise, but I am not saying Chap has low energy if anything I will say Chap does still have GRAND Stamina (Potentially Chap can reverse time on himself to not get tired), Chap is on league's with another Iconic Hammer Wielder.

Chaps Stamina would be "Superhuman" Now... To be truly honest though, and I don't know if you think the same: SUPERHUMAN just doesn't have that PUNCH to describe somebody with truly GRAND Stamina doesn't it? like SB who has EXTREMELY HIGH Stamina sounds pretty grand (Something I also forgot to mention and we should put in both SB and Pat's abilities is "Stamina Restoration" As in the episode "Scavenger Pants" they searched Squids "Brother" for 6 months straight with no breaks, and although withered at first, recovered instantly afterwards. Making this far harder to tire them) Compared to "Superhuman (Which such label should still be in the rating, just below the biggest rating I will say soon)". In fact I say to describe pretty beyond a Superhuman Stamina should just be named "GRAND" Or something else of better choice.

For Subjetive Reality from Snow White, its an okay label, but maybe there could be something more from it aside Clairvoyance. Which by the way in terms of Clairvoyance, Chap said he already knew what needed to be done of which he cured Snow White and the downfall of the witch. This is VERY useful then you think like not just the precog, basically via Clairvoyance he can see what happens to certain opponents in the future to figure out easier (Potentially as universal if he is seeing through the story like that! Is he geniunely THAT psychic? Both "Swing Good" and have those clay models too btw. Next time on Game Theory!: Chapulin Colorado is actually Ness's Father + Chaves and Ness are Stepbrothers confirmed!) Plus he can potentially do passively and awake, I say this as its not something such as "sleeping to see the future" like Batman does. Very cool. Indeed the Greater Diavolo.

The Alma Negra stuff is useful of course and makes it all the more impressive that Chap beats this guy, as always I am taking note per usual. I mean tbh the actor is close to that height anyways. The things I find most interesting about BS though is, yes, him becoming a pirate for like a week plus attire, nothing to scoff at as I and you mentioned given the OP things B.S. has done: Black Soul would indeed be the first Yonko/God of the Pirates!! XD

Chap commanding somebody to a contrary thing would be another Status Effect ability as with the reactions given were confusion (Once more like Ness, who can perform confusion under his Status Effects abilities. Once again, aside Telepathy-Telekinesis, Precognition, and being Clairvoyant: Chap has showcased EVEN MORE OP PSI abilities going on), which indeed would be very useful (Yakko Warner if I recall can command anybody to have a seat and regardless, they will sit, it fell in Status Effects). That is some more neat S.I. to say the least, could effect whom he's fighting in the Bugs Bunny style kind of way in effective trickery (If Status Effects was not already OP enough!). His Intergrated Ability is maybe just his Hyper Speed Antenna move again under a different name, however he doesn't dissappear this time around, I guess its still useful. Where is him using Broadway in combat again?
I guess that would be notable Reactiveness, but he then got knocked out by the lady though... More degree of Reactiveness for civilians? Hope it's not confusing.

The "Forcing the warrior to dance" Part IS one of the Status Effects I also found. Thus we currently also have Chap able to avoid an opponents projectiles that makes them inoffensive in the game, and able to confuse a Pirate via through words.
That may have only been the witch's magic that saved Chap, we do hear the Witch say that she saved him from the chop. Then again we already have Chap upscaling from the civilians who can live without limbs or the brain.

Another interesting thing about the shoot out trickery scenes, in the Drygut and Quasi-Nice shoot out clip we see the women legit check Chap's pulse which lead her in "confirming" his death, only do we then see Chap of course was just simulating. To somehow shut down you body and comeback with no issues is some neato Body Control on Chaps part. I guess more supporting IQ as aside house destruction, pre planned things in bouts wise will still come in great use.

That is a very useful list, thank you.
That spawning a thunderstorm feat is actually more impressive if I recall, mind you Chap mostly upscales from civilians and the civilian hurt the vampire, said civilians as we discuss may have a degree of reactiveness (Another example for civilian reactiveness is in the Metorite episode, the guy with glasses couldn't lift the metorites but then actually could, and Chap simply overpowered them despite civilians own reactiveness!). But what is the AP for causing a thunderstorm again? High 7-C to 7-B maybe? Crash Bandicoot remembers, he surprisingly managed to **** up Thunderstorm + Ice Age creating Elemental Masks (Maybe FAAAAAR MORE POWERFUL as various Crystals were needed to seal them, the energy materials of the Crystal's shrunk Earth one time), I already asked Neko about Crash Bandicoot and he shows interest, idk about you. But I think you get my point: Chapulin should be no different with the thunderstorm AP like Oda's One Piece verse had something like that too.

That is very good Supernatural Luck when you think about it, almost in a a Doctor Who way of interrupting things. Basically should an opponent uses some explosives they won't explode on Chap, when Chap throws it back though it will backfire on said opponent. Very neat!

I'm VERY intrigued with the Horn receiving the Reactive Evolution treatment. But as to the full reason? Is it due to stopping Civilians own degree of Reactiveness, or something more entirely aside this?

Interesting indeed given he correctly saw the direction in "seeing a hot figure". What can I say Lupin lll, I AM a playa! If Chapulin fights a women, not only will the women's seduction not work, but he'll end up seducing the said chick opponent instead! XD
I mean I thought Chavo was separately fictional from Chapulin's setting? But even then its super blursed seeing an orphan boy like Chavo get Tier 8-B to possible 7-B (Higher via Black Soul's Yonko Achievement feat), Class K LS (Possibly higher depending on the Astronauts Jupiter's Center LS Calc), and potential Massively Hypersonic+ (Chaps ocean jumping guessing estimate) with Massively FTL+ combat reactions scaling on Chap's part, I mean Florinda pushed Chap away that time! XD. Speaking of Chavo, in the comics: Chavo and Chapulin switch places and by that I mean - Chavo having Chapulins OP Suit/Inventory in Optional Equipment when??

I would like to know more context on what you meant of Hitler, like by scaling Chap being more of a threat to the explosives of their time? I mean I searched a bit and what they used may pail to the 8-B and further feats Chap has, BUT apparently they had USA Kiloton bombs in store... But the validation of this is strange because Nazis didn't consider nuclear arsenals if I recall. Also recall Hitler had "wonder weapons" plans like his V3 Supergun, but it failed?... Idk man, my history lessons are rusty of what Hitler had of weapons so you can do way better on this, but most of them seemingly had 9-B to 9-A weapons, maybe 8-C cuz they had tank piercing shells.
Pugao_03
Pugao_03
I think I have to agree, but El chapulin making a warrior dance I believe it would be Brodway force, something similar happens in Fortnite with a grenade that makes the opponent dance, the witch in this case mentions having saved Chapulin from being cut in half, nothing about taking the pain away in this case, so I believe it can be a good feat of pain resistance, the Bionic sledgehammer I believe that it acting alone could be those cases of El chapulin whistling and her going alone to him, besides that in "the mansion of the elves" Chapulin believed she was capable of hitting him by herself, not sure about civilians having reactive evolution, but people like Black Soul really must have since el chapulin has been confirmed to hold its own against civilians, about Hitler , he was stated to be "the only one in the world capable of facing Hitler" so this version did not consider the other war countries as a threat, considering the chapulin something worse
Pugao_03
Pugao_03
and forgot to mention one thing involving Chapulin's supernatural luck I think, so here a very experienced and skilled thug as a marksman, aims exactly at him with his bullets while he stands still, but he is perplexed that Chapulin is still alive and asks "no Did the bullets hit you??" and he says "only none", basically El chapulin's luck is such that projectiles miss even though he's standing in front of him. 🐒
And I also found a game that I believe to be canon for El Chavo Animated, there are useful things here. (there's even a scene of them running in the middle of space, resisting fragments from a volcanic eruption and etc.)
and I also believe that Don Ramon's weapons can scale with those of other thugs like "Few Locks" because his weapons have threatened civilians.
Pugao_03
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forgot to say, but about Chapulin's vigor, I think it should be mentioned that he rarely gets tired in his profiles, most of the time he never gets tired, plus it's implied that most of his time he spends helping people around. throughout history almost non-stop.
Pugao_03
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Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E
Anomalous_N_I_W_D_E
Damn it the copyright block got in the way sorry man.

So about the posts: I still thought the Witch's magic may have had some merit to that, but OK.

For the Sledgehammer bits again I will try to note, also it's interesting that the Hammer stayed in that time period the entire time which he or the hammer itself can teleport back.

About Civilian reactivity itself, I already did give examples where Chap alongside a civilian eventually saw through the Invisibility of the world's greatest spy AND in the metorites episode where the glasses man, while injured mind you, kept up with lifting some of the metorites while intially he couldn't. But yeah Black Soul is as notable and it's impressive that despite Souls own reactiveness eventually got man handled by Chap! Which would come in great use with opponents with that ability.

About Hitler, I missed that "Only one who can stop you IN THE WORLD" detail my bad, however Hitler died by his own bombs plus the Nazis (Initially when Chaps reactiveness did not kick in) were stronger then Chap, which even if its a Hitler that was considered such a world wide threat who uses the best at his disposal, don't appear to be something like powerful nukes otherwise the whole area would have been obliterated. Still the interesting thing though is that: Chapulin knew all along and was trolling them at the end, which shows very impressive cunning and even more so as Hitler was considered a world wide threat.

About that part of luck, I think I already said that Chap was flicking away the bullets so it clearly hit Chap but it didn't do anything, as the bandit said "The bullets cannot harm you??" Which led Chap to say "Likely they aren't any!" Meaning no bullets can effect Chap, sure we considered it to some degree of Invulnerbility, but I can already hear them with the whole higher durability argument, but I'll try including the bullet clip again in Invulnerbility.

For the Chaves part, yeah those would be useful to add and agree with Ramon inventory but who was "Few locks" again?

As for Chapulin's Stamina, while I may consider a Limitless Stamina Chapulin a tad debatable given he has shown to be winded at times, yeah he can traverse many areas plus be in different time periods without tiredness is nothing to scoff at, I will try to add his "unlimited energy" statement as characters like SB who at their absolute best has shown extreme Stamina and tended to recover afterwards. The same may be no different to Chap. Btw instead of the name "Grand" Stamina, "Extravagant" should be added for the very top Stamina that is not Limitless.

For the celebration thing, that would be Clairvoyance again although first we see Chap confused for a bit he then instantly knew. And that meeting the creator fourth wall break would probably come in more use then we think, I also currently don't have a clue as to what episode it may be but maybe the episode list will have an answer.
Pugao_03
Pugao_03
oh bem qual dos links falhou? Acho que tenho outro aqui.
About Hitler, he wasn't the one who would have a large AP, but in this case Hitler would be treating Chapulin as a threat to his empire, but he didn't consider the bombs of the time one, So much so that a soldier calls Chapulín "invincible".
So in this case the Nazis seemed to fear the very strength of El Chapulin, due to quotes from their conversation.
The soldier for example mentions that he couldn't stop him because he was "invincible" and Chapulin is said to be the only threat to Hitler's empire.

I think we can try limited invulnerability again, the wiki updated the invulnerability page and that kind of bullet invulnerable being is there.

I tried to translate the name into English but in Portuguese it is "Poucas trancas" he is a dangerous madman who does not say that he threatened the chapatim, it was in the same episode that Chapulín made a garbage can sleep.

I think it could be, not to mention that Chapulín is basically a doctor who in experience, he travels through all time and space, real world and fiction to help people who need help XD
This changing the story itself, you can already imagine how many people he helped, right? What we saw in the series would be just a taste of what he goes through, Even more considering that he goes to other universes.
Chapulin and Super Sam can actually be extremely experienced considering they are both rivals in the case so the latter's teleport should be as good as Chapulin's.

maybe enhanced senses but idk since he seemed to know instantly what it was about, but maybe there are interesting things in this episode where he meets Roberto gomes Bolanos.
Pugao_03
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I think it would be good to specify that invulnerability is limited, just like they did in shummatso.
and also if you could tell me the link that gave an error, if it was from the canonical game of el chavo there's a link here
Within the game there are scenes of them resisting volcanic rocks falling against them and so on.
but what would that be? chapolin asks a woman a question, but the voice he thought while reading the letter answered him
and perhaps pressure point resistance, Chapulin was attacked by a man who attacked him at pressure points
There was a scene in an episode of a man with a black hand being able to knock out people by hitting them in that same area
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