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I can post the thread sometime tomorrow to get everything settled, God Tiers would likely get 7-C removed barring Ohma via Demonsbane since nobody scales to it and that feat in particular is meant to use as a limit to the amount of damage Ohma himself can reflect back at the opponent.

Ugarik wrote DragonGamer's Demonsbane comment.

Also, according to his statement, the exploits of Ohma's and Wakatsuki are not earthquakes, since they are not of a continuous nature. This is especially evident in Wakatsuki's feat, where on the same page we see no shake-up. Ugarik advised to use vibration speed for this and later I will try to calculate. You can watch our dialogue with him again.

Also, Ohma's 8-B feat during the battle with Wakatsuki should be recalculated, for this is a shock wave, not an earthquake.

Replied to him.


And there's no need to use Vibration speed which is a method I've never even seen be used before, we could just calculate it as a shockwave instead as we typically do.



Dragon will adjust Ohma's feat after I make my calc group thread today.

I guess vibration will give the best result with KE.
And I don't know how you will count the shock wave. You see, I mentioned this earlier. The pressure that is used in the standard form is equal to the pressure of the shock wave in a real explosion. But none of those who were in the arena suffered from this, so the result should be low.

Made a CRT for the shaking feats in general, we're gonna look into it further.


Could I perhaps ask you to drop any Kengan stuff till we can reach a conclusion for what method to use? This effects several verses so that's more important atm.

Can you drop the link to the CRT?

You can add Class K for the strongest characters in the verse, starting from the feat of Julius.

I also calculated the mountain vibration feat and this gives a high 8-B to a basic 8-A.

I will give this calculation when you throw off the link to the CRT

Sorry just got around to waking up.


Anyway for Wakatsuki's feat on particular I'd say either the mid end or the high end are the best, I'll get around to adding Julius's lifting strength soon also thanks for that calc.

Once your calcs get accepted I'll make a Kengan CRT to revise the stats.

It seems to me that we should also recalculate the speed into verse. The high-speed feats of Kiryu and Gaolang give us high subsonic and basic supersonic performance. We can also calculate the speed of Ray, which will only scale up to itself. Akoya's feat looks like an outlier and is also very blurry. We cannot be completely sure that the bullet flew 30 cm until he found himself behind the enemy's back. He could just as well deflect his head from the trajectory of the bullet and continue on his way after it flew past. In addition, we have two statements from two of the strongest characters in the poem, who say that one cannot be faster than a bullet and a speed of 800 m / s is unattainable for them.

I've always thought they should have a bullet timing rating for their Foresight. I also think it'd be possible to calculate Ohma and Niko deflecting bullets via calculating the trajectory since it's done in a short time frame, which should still give us something to work with? Ohma's Advance multiplier might actually bump them to close to that level depending on the calcs.


But yeah the verses speed was supposed to get downgraded awhile back but nobody ever applied the changes.

I'll calculate the best speed feats today. Then you can add it to the CRT

Bet.

Great.

Also I linked the AP calcs to a few calc members, waiting for them to evaluate them.

I've noticed that lately, all the members of the calculation team have become much less likely to respond.
I write to them on the message wall through the main form of the site. Perhaps this is due to the fact that people have stopped receiving notifications from the message wall and therefore it is worth writing to them in private messages.

Anyway, drop me the stats revison link when the results are accepted.

If you can redo Ohma'a feat then I can get around to making the CRT btw.

Tomorrow Ugarik will do a CRT about vibration feats and we will choose which method is correct. The method he suggested right now gave a much more modest result with 8-C as the high end. It still looks okay for vibration though.

Ohma's feat, however, is getting worse. This is not an earthquake, and we do not see the vibration of the arena. There is only a shock wave, but I cannot predict its strength until the members of the calc group confirm or deny my idea of shock waves.
As you can see, they are now less active on this wiki.

Okay, in general. Looks like the speed feats were approved. Ugarik has not yet answered about the new method, but he does not mind what is being used now. However, the high-end seems to me too high, both because of the too strong jump in the strength of the verse, and because of the fact that at an amplitude of 3 cm, destruction was supposed to begin. Therefore, I made a mid-high end with an amplitude of 2.5 cm, which will give 8-B+ and will scale the Blactcore at least 3 times higher.

God-tier characters must scale up to level 8-B due to the fact that Ohma can accept attacks of this level. Scaling up to 16 tons does not work now. Now we are scaling up to 15 tons, dividing 75 tons of Wakatsuki by 5.

Demonsbane should also scale to 8-A. Kuroki kind of could take this attack, but that's not for sure.

A feat with a shock wave in the arena will not give high results. In principle, I do not know what else we can calculate.

By the way, LS class M for Jilius and Wakatsuki was accepted. The rest of the characters should probably stay superhuman.

Sorry for the inactivity, been pretty busy myself. I'll address some of this soon.


As for Demonsbane I think the only one who scales to it would be Ohma's Niko and Tiger Niko since they fought each other, and currently no characters scale to either one of them.