Yes, but that still doesn't explain what happened to them. Were they destroyed in battle or does Naruto just not use them for some reason?
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KingTempest
Probably destroyed in the final one against Indra's arrow
UchihaSlayer96
Either that or PIS tbh. Naruto's current "SPSM" is literally just a discount KCM.
It shares literally none of the attributes that SPSM possessed in Shippuden.
It shares literally none of the attributes that SPSM possessed in Shippuden.
KingTempest
SPSM in Shippuden was immune to ninjutsu, which no villain uses.
SPSM in Shippuden had all these TSOs, which Naruto finished.
SPSM in Shippuden was used for less than 30 chapters.
SPSM was really a mess
SPSM in Shippuden had all these TSOs, which Naruto finished.
SPSM in Shippuden was used for less than 30 chapters.
SPSM was really a mess
UchihaSlayer96
He could fly and heal people as well, not to mention it looked very different. Don't get me started on the Asura avatar.
New Era SPSM is literally nothing like the old one.
New Era SPSM is literally nothing like the old one.
OneBleachHurricane
I come with a message from the future, and it says:
ThAt's yOUr hEAdcAnOn
ThAt's yOUr hEAdcAnOn
UchihaSlayer96
That "debate" was entertaining as hell lmao.
OneBleachHurricane
Ah yes "The Bait"
UchihaSlayer96
Honestly, I don't even know why people hate the idea of Shippuden characters being stronger....
Like seriously, who wants ******* Kinshiki to one-shot Madara lol? Not mention, this wouldn't really downgrade the verse, it'd just bump up Shippuden god tiers up the totem pole.
I'm not saying that's a good enough reason to do anything of course, but I'm just saying that people being SO against it is weird to me personally I guess.
Like seriously, who wants ******* Kinshiki to one-shot Madara lol? Not mention, this wouldn't really downgrade the verse, it'd just bump up Shippuden god tiers up the totem pole.
I'm not saying that's a good enough reason to do anything of course, but I'm just saying that people being SO against it is weird to me personally I guess.
OneBleachHurricane
Let's see, Momoshiki only ever fought a
1. Low on Chakra Sasuke
And
2. A drained Naruto
Whereas
Both Kaguya and Isshiki fought, more or less, full capacity Naruto and Sasuke
And people still want to say that Momoshiki is stronger than Kaguya
1. Low on Chakra Sasuke
And
2. A drained Naruto
Whereas
Both Kaguya and Isshiki fought, more or less, full capacity Naruto and Sasuke
And people still want to say that Momoshiki is stronger than Kaguya
UchihaSlayer96
"NaRuTo AnD sAsUkE aRe MuCh StRoNgEr NoW, yOu DoWnPlAyEr!!!"
UchihaSlayer96
But on a more serious note, I'm almost 100% certain the next chapter will screw everything up by having Borushiki matching Isshiki lol.
Once that happens, kiss any chance of having coherent scaling goodbye.
Once that happens, kiss any chance of having coherent scaling goodbye.
OneBleachHurricane
Toneri < Kinshiki < Momoshiki < TCM Toneri < Fused Momoshiki < Kaguya < Isshiki (Jigen) < Isshiki (Kawaki)
FIght mE!
FIght mE!
UchihaSlayer96
I agree with all of that, except TCM Toneri > Momoshiki, buuuut I'm not 100% against it either necessarily.
OneBleachHurricane
On another note, poor KingTempest we're really abusing the hell out of this Apache Helicopter's message wall
OneBleachHurricane
On topic, the reason I put TCM Toneri above Base Momoshiki is because he has nothing to warrant himself being stronger.
UchihaSlayer96
Well, depending on whether or not you believe Naruto using BSM in the Last was an art error or not, he technically was forced into a stronger form by Momoshiki.
OneBleachHurricane
Circumstances such as Momoshiki creating a powered up TBB, further powering it up by eating Chakra Pills, then getting a little boost from Boruto's Ninja Tech
Maybe the ones that blocked the Susanoo arrows before just came back