[So I'm a spider so what!/Kumo desu] Kumoko's profile revamp!

Crimsonobu · Wednesday at 18:07

Hi so this CRT intends to update Kumoko's light novel profile to this current sandbox

Though I do recognise the current sandbox isn't fully caught up the current page does not have many references and it skips indexing keys to just go to her final form. The reason I didn't do all her keys in a CRT is because it'd be way too much content as that's 18 volumes worth of content in one page. So I did as Twilight suggested when I asked here to keep it easier for mods.

So I planned to do key splits CRT overtime so the profile eventually is fully caught up. The current page should have a outdated page to show signs that it is being worked on so eventually the arachne key and the god key are back and implemented.

Proposal 2

The alternative proposal that Bernkastell suggested is to apply all the CRTs in one go. So the current page would still be given a oudated page and several CRTs will be done for different keys then all the CRTS can be applied once at the end.

Personally I'm favouring proposal 2 as of right now but listed both proposals.

Here is a list of abilities the earlier keys are getting

1st key

Bodily Weaponry
Paralysis Inducement
Surface Scaling
Thread Manipulation, Adhesive Manipulation, limited Invisibility, and traps
Stealth Mastery
Enhanced Senses/ESP
Stealth Mastery
Empowerment
Energy Manipulation
Conditional healing
Accelerated Development and Reactive Evolution
Resistance to acid
Resistance to poison
Resistance to pain manipulation
Resistance to Petrification
Resistance to acid
Resistance to Paralysis Inducement
Resistance to death Manipulation and Deconstruction

2nd key new abilities:

Weapon creation
Regeneration
Resistance to soul manipulation
Resistance to fear manipulation
Resistance to sleep manipulate

Summary: None of these abilities are new as they were on the old page anyway but the only thing this CRT does is create 2 keys, add references, scans, and justification

Agree: @Bernkastelll (offered a second proposal and agreed to sandbox), @XxZetsuxX (agreed to second proposal and sandbox), @AlipheeseXIV (agreed to second proposal and sandbox), @TheGreatJedi13 (agreed to second proposal, and the sandbox), @Lilybitdun (agreed with Jedi)
Disagree:
Neutral:

Bernkastelll · Wednesday at 18:18

Crimsonobu said:
Hi so this CRT intends to update Kumoko's light novel profile to this current sandbox

Though I do recognise the current sandbox isn't fully caught up the current page does not have many references and it skips indexing keys to just go to her final form. The reason I didn't do all her keys in a CRT is because it'd be way too much content as that's 18 volumes worth of content in one page. So I did as Twilight suggested when I asked here to keep it easier for mods.

So I planned to do key splits CRT overtime so the profile eventually is fully caught up. The current page should have a outdated page to show signs that it is being worked on so eventually the arachne key and the god key are back and implemented.

I disagree, ofc your current sandbox looks better, but nah, too few contents, thats like if someone published Luffy's profile but only up to Arlong Park arc, it doesnt makes sense, ofc there's no rule stopping this (I guess?), but I don't like it, instead of updating the profile to the sandbox it's better to just put a note saying that the current profile is outdated and you make a new CRT when everything it's done

Crimsonobu · Wednesday at 18:20

Bernkastelll said:
I disagree, ofc your current sandbox looks better, but nah, too few contents, thats like if someone published Luffy's profile but only up to Arlong Park arc, it doesnt makes sense, ofc there's no rule stopping this (I guess?), but I don't like it, instead of updating the profile to the sandbox it's better to just put a note saying that the current profile is outdated and you make a new CRT when everything it's done

I thought about that but I asked in Q&A which Twilight (a mod) gave me their opinion, also I don't know how digestible 18 volume worth of content CRT for one character will be.

Bernkastelll · Wednesday at 18:25

Crimsonobu said:
I thought about that but I asked in Q&A which Twilight (a mod) gave me their opinion, also I don't know how digestible 18 volume worth of content CRT for one character will be.

Separate the CRT into different parts, each part for one of her Evolutions, and only apply the changes after all the CRTs are done, it would be better like this ig, or maybe just some mega CRT with all of her Stages included

Crimsonobu · Wednesday at 18:29

Bernkastelll said:
Separate the CRT into different parts, each part for one of her Evolutions, and only apply the changes after all the CRTs are done, it would be better like this ig, or maybe just some mega CRT with all of her Stages included

That's the current plan? It's 2 evolutions per CRT to catch up to the pace. So by the 3rd CRT she will have the Arachne key back.

The god key is deserving of its own separate page and it's own CRT. Kumoko becomes a god in volume 7 so you get 7 volumes worth of complete different stats and abilities. Kinda like how Luffy is split in pre time skip and post time skip are two different pages shared by a link. But that's for future discussuon.

Bernkastelll · Wednesday at 18:34

Crimsonobu said:
That's the current plan? It's 2 evolutions per CRT to catch up to the pace. So by the 3rd CRT she will have the Arachne key back.

that would be fine yeah

Crimsonobu said:
The god key is deserving of its own separate page and it's own CRT. Kumoko becomes a god in volume 7 so you get 7 volumes worth of complete different stats and abilities. Kinda like how Luffy is split in pre time skip and post time skip are two different pages shared by a link. But that's for future discussuon.

hmmm i don't think I agree with this, characters like Naruto, Goku and Luffy have several different pages their series have thousands of chapters and episodes, it would be a mess to have infinite keys into a single profile, Kumoko case should be like Rimuru's case, everything fits into one page just fine

Rimuru Tempest (Light Novel)

Rimuru Tempest (リムル＝テンペスト, Rimuru Tenpesuto?), formerly known as Satoru Mikami (三上みかみ悟さとる, Mikami Satoru?), is the main protagonist of Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken. He is an Otherworlder reincarnated as a slime, and the sworn friend of the Storm Dragon Veldora Tempest. He is the founder and...

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Crimsonobu · Wednesday at 18:35

Bernkastelll said:
that would be fine yeah

hmmm i don't think I agree with this, characters like Naruto, Goku and Luffy have several different pages their series have thousands of chapters and episodes, it would be a mess to have infinite keys into a single profile, Kumoko case should be like Rimuru's case, everything fits into one page just fine

Rimuru Tempest (Light Novel)

Rimuru Tempest (リムル＝テンペスト, Rimuru Tenpesuto?), formerly known as Satoru Mikami (三上みかみ悟さとる, Mikami Satoru?), is the main protagonist of Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken. He is an Otherworlder reincarnated as a slime, and the sworn friend of the Storm Dragon Veldora Tempest. He is the founder and...

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Oh that's true about the Rimuru point, yeah that's fine.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH · Wednesday at 18:36

It feels weird to index "pain resistance" as anything other than a resistance to pain. But I get the reasoning.

Crimsonobu · Thursday at 21:05

Bump!

TheGreatJedi13 · Thursday at 22:08

So your plan is to completely rework the profile from scratch starting with the beginning spider key?

XxZetsuxX · Thursday at 22:38

Self pain manip should be resistence to pain manipulation

Energy manipulation (energy stock stuff) is stamina manipulation (so healing)

Regeneration.. i think it's healing too ngl

Enhanced poison manip in her first key doesn't make sense, enhanced should be given if her next key has better quality of the ability

Also, i would create a seperation tab on her notable techniques, since accumulating abilities without seperating it will confuse people

XxZetsuxX · Thursday at 22:41

Also, why is trap master linking to another character?

Crimsonobu · Thursday at 23:04

XxZetsuxX said:
Also, why is trap master linking to another character?

Fixed

Crimsonobu · Thursday at 23:05

TheGreatJedi13 said:
So your plan is to completely rework the profile from scratch starting with the beginning spider key?

That was the intended plan but I think I'm opting for several CRTs and implementing it at the end

XxZetsuxX · Thursday at 23:16

Crimsonobu said:
Fixed

And my other suggestions ;-;

Arceus0x · Thursday at 23:17

feels like switching unfinished work for unfinished work. Disagree.

BreezeHM · Thursday at 23:17

You have a few formatting issues in your sandbox. Permission to fix?

Crimsonobu · Thursday at 23:17

XxZetsuxX said:
Self pain manip should be resistence to pain manipulation

Changed

XxZetsuxX said:
Energy manipulation (energy stock stuff) is stamina manipulation (so healing)

Not sure about this? Since is healing isn't exactly right. It's breaking down the excess food in her body and adding it onto additional stamina on her bar therefore exceeding her normal stamina

XxZetsuxX said:
Regeneration.. i think it's healing too ngl

Didn't change. To quote the healing page

Healing is the ability to remove the injuries of oneself and others. Users may also use it to relieve or eliminate the symptoms and effects of diseases or other medical conditions, which leads to recovery and restoration of health. This ability can be used both on others and for personal use (as opposed to Regeneration, which is passive and only usable for oneself).

Kumoko's level ups don't heal others!

XxZetsuxX said:
Enhanced poison manip in her first key doesn't make sense, enhanced should be given if her next key has better quality of the ability

Changed

XxZetsuxX said:
Also, i would create a seperation tab on her notable techniques, since accumulating abilities without seperating it will confuse people

Not sure exactly what you mean

Crimsonobu · Thursday at 23:18

Arceus0x said:
feels like switching unfinished work for unfinished work. Disagree.

Shall I put you down for second proposal or disagree with both?

Crimsonobu · Thursday at 23:19

BreezeHM said:
You have a few formatting issues in your sandbox. Permission to fix?

Yes! Still new to this so thank you for helping!

XxZetsuxX · Thursday at 23:21

Crimsonobu said:
Not sure about this? Since is healing isn't exactly right. It's breaking down the excess food in her body and adding it onto additional stamina on her bar therefore exceeding her normal stamina

Didn't change. To quote the healing page

Kumoko's level ups don't heal others!

Healing doesn't have to be on others though

Crimsonobu said:
Not sure exactly what you mean

In notable techniques

You create tabbers like you did with her powers and abilities section

you seperate the abilities she has for each key

Crimsonobu · Thursday at 23:23

XxZetsuxX said:
Healing doesn't have to be on others though

In notable techniques

Yeah but the page says heal oneself and others. So I thought they should be capable of doing it even if they don't? Kumoko's regeneration comes from ｎ％Ｉ＝Ｗ and the effects are only on her.

XxZetsuxX said:
You create tabbers like you did with her powers and abilities section

you seperate the abilities she has for each key

That makes sense. I'll do that.

XxZetsuxX · Thursday at 23:25

Crimsonobu said:
Yeah but the page says heal oneself and others. So I thought they should be capable of doing it even if they don't? Kumoko's regeneration comes from ｎ％Ｉ＝Ｗ and the effects are only on her.

The page gives examples, not that you have to meet every requirement

In fiction, there are people with healing that only applies to them, but that wouldn't be regeneration, would it? Is what i'm trying to say

XxZetsuxX · Thursday at 23:27

Healing also includes stamina regeneration too btw

Crimsonobu · Thursday at 23:40

XxZetsuxX said:
Healing also includes stamina regeneration too btw

I think healing makes sense.

I tried to include the tabber you were talking about. Is that okay?

XxZetsuxX · Thursday at 23:42

Like that yes but personally, i would go with something like this one;

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ayanokouji_Kiyotaka#ANHS

Crimsonobu · Thursday at 23:46

XxZetsuxX said:
Like that yes but personally, i would go with something like this one;

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ayanokouji_Kiyotaka#ANHS

Thank you for the example. Oh and do you vote for proposal 1 or 2?

XxZetsuxX · Thursday at 23:47

Crimsonobu said:
Thank you for the example. Oh and do you vote for proposal 1 or 2?

I would go for 2 as well

AlipheeseXIV · Thursday at 23:52

The sandboxes general format is better, but you should add her Arachne and God keys with their abilities from the current page, as well as images for them, until that is fixed I'll have to disagree, but once it's done it'll be good

Crimsonobu · Thursday at 23:56

AlipheeseXIV said:
The sandboxes general format is better, but you should add her Arachne and God keys with their abilities from the current page, as well as images for them, until that is fixed I'll have to disagree, but once it's done it'll be good

The sandbox doesn't have to be implemented in the second proposal. This CRT will be adding abilities and just be part of the larger CRT parts so at the end everything will be implemented which include fully updated Arachne and God key.

I.e
Part 1 (2 evolutions)
Part 2 CRT (2 evolutions)-
Etc

Then at the end all changes applied at once so every key is updated.

Unless you disagree with both proposals which is fine too!

BreezeHM · Thursday at 23:59

Crimsonobu said:
Yes! Still new to this so thank you for helping!

I've cleaned up some of it. The Powers & Abilities section still has a bit more, but maybe when I get more time or if the CRT gets accepted I'll finish the rest.

Crimsonobu · Friday at 00:02

BreezeHM said:
I've cleaned up some of it. The Powers & Abilities section still has a bit more, but maybe when I get more time or if the CRT gets accepted I'll finish the rest.

Thank you. By the way are you in agreement with any of the proposal or do you disagree.

XxZetsuxX · Friday at 00:05

Ngl, if she can bypass resistences, shouldn't she get resistence negation?

Crimsonobu · Friday at 00:11

XxZetsuxX said:
Ngl, if she can bypass resistences, shouldn't she get resistence negation?

I thought a similar thing before but found out that poison can be measured in numerical Potency or quantity on this wiki so it can't get layers or resistance negation.

It's like if a character X had a heat resistance of 5000°C but Character Y can output 10000°C and killed them. You wouldn't get resistance negation since you just overpowered it with Potency and didn't negate their resistance. They may have died a slower death than someone who had 1000°C resistance so their resistance was working but you brute force overpowered

AlipheeseXIV · Friday at 00:23

Crimsonobu said:
The sandbox doesn't have to be implemented in the second proposal. This CRT will be adding abilities and just be part of the larger CRT parts so at the end everything will be implemented which include fully updated Arachne and God key.

I.e
Part 1 (2 evolutions)
Part 2 CRT (2 evolutions)-
Etc

Then at the end all changes applied at once so every key is updated.

Unless you disagree with both proposals which is fine too!

Oh ok, well if that's the case, then it's fine I can agree with that

BreezeHM · Friday at 00:29

Crimsonobu said:
Thank you. By the way are you in agreement with any of the proposal or do you disagree.

You should list the changes in the OP. Because I have no clue what's being changed besides the format. Though I will say 18 volumes of content into one revision will likely steer staff away from evaluating. Hence why I broke up Martial Peak into several different CRTs overtime.

TheGreatJedi13 · Friday at 00:30

Crimsonobu said:
That was the intended plan but I think I'm opting for several CRTs and implementing it at the end

Sure. Proposal 2 seems fine

as for the sandbox page for the key in this CRT. I'll check it at a later time

also like BreezeHM says. best to also list what changed and what is added

Crimsonobu · Friday at 00:45

BreezeHM said:
You should list the changes in the OP. Because I have no clue what's being changed besides the format. Though I will say 18 volumes of content into one revision will likely steer staff away from evaluating. Hence why I broke up Martial Peak into several different CRTs overtime.

The thing is there isn't any "new abilities" actually being added. It's just the addition of 2 keys, referencing and justification. These abilities are already on the profile without justification and References.

TheGreatJedi13 said:
Sure. Proposal 2 seems fine

Alright I'll put you down!

TheGreatJedi13 said:
as for the sandbox page for the key in this CRT. I'll check it at a later time

also like BreezeHM says. best to also list what changed and what is added

There's nothing technically being added as everything was on the profile with no referencing but the change is introducing her first 2 keys still. Like I said above. But for comprehension sake I'll put down the abilities into a list.

BreezeHM · Friday at 02:04

Crimsonobu said:
The thing is there isn't any "new abilities" actually being added. It's just the addition of 2 keys, referencing and justification. These abilities are already on the profile without justification and References.

Alright I'll put you down!

There's nothing technically being added as everything was on the profile with no referencing but the change is introducing her first 2 keys still. Like I said above. But for comprehension sake I'll put down the abilities into a list.

Alright then Proposal 2 is fine.

Crimsonobu · Saturday at 00:12

Bump!

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