UrongSygn1
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Natsuki Subaru VS Gojo Satoru
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Voting Subaru is fine, but this argument doesn't work because it works both ways. If the time stopped crystals have no feats of ignoring space, there's no reason to assume it can ignore Infinity/Space. The burden of proof would be on to you prove it ignores distance. If they ignore distance, that's an easy win-con. If they don't ignore distance, they'd be subject to the distance Gojo controls with his technique. There's no reason it'd be exempt.
Zabazab
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Correct, Minya would not bypass Infinity.
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I forgot to say that if this is AP based that crushing Gojo's heart wouldn't work due to AP diff unless these hands scale way above Subaru or smth. In which case sure. Attacking internal organs are treated as limited dura neg now.
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hm, well it was able to destroy Regulus' Lion Heart. Regulus has 7-B durability, but donno how it applies to that particular object.
regardless, it was out of character anyway. my vote ain't really based on that part.
Mainly, it comes down to Shamak and its various forms (spatial BFR, black holes, sensory disruption). And the EMT barrier thing if you have equalized power systems in the matchup.
Subaru also technically has one way of avoiding Domain Expansion (and well, all of Gojo's other attacks), that being EMM, which allows him to sidestep out of reality as a form of invulnerability considered on par with Regulus' stillness. It could probably come into play if Subaru gets killed by Domain Expansion in one loop, as he'd then try to avoid it.
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Might wanna upgrade him to 7-B with those hands then tbh.
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ehh idk, but possibly or likely rating could work
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7-B invisible providence that Base Ram tanks, which turns into 7-B Eridna because she stabbed Ram with a knife
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How does crushing a 7-B object only warrant a possibly.
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7-B dura regulus 
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Stabbing someone doesn't grant you those stats, the tunnel is a weird thing to scale from but ig if she managed to activate her flow method at the last second to tank her hit then it makes sense. Wouldn't make base Ram 7B tho
Regulus likely used the flow method in an emergency to tank her hits, it isnt his usual state
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She tanked it Denji style
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I see the vision. 7-B Subaru for choking Ram. 7-B Eridna for stabbing Ram. 7-B Otto > Subaru
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choking someone doesnt grant you their AP lol, and its explicitly stated Ram was weakened and couldn't use flow amps properly.
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choking was LS not AP.
stab is piercing damage
every time IP has been used it has done damage to things/people that are above Subaru's level. Like Garfiel, Ram, Centaurs, etc.
and it would make sense it is literally a fcking Authority. The same shit that Petelguese had. Simply with one arm instead of a lot.
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7B is with flow amps, which is something Ram is consistently not good at keeping up due to her condition, we would also need to give Subaru class K LS for that if you want to go that route. She was also severely nerfed in the tunnel. Can she block one attack? sure, she has intuition bs and good senses.
All in all, i think IP being 7B is fine but Subaru or Scarfdona dont scale to it
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Gojo lacks win conditions against Subaru, especially given RBD and spells. Things like EMT and EMM also negate any hax he could use. Even if he could use something like purple or IV, it wouldn't really do anything to Subaru, as either RBD activates or the fight restarts.
On the contrary, Subaru can use things such as Murak via Beako. He can also adapt to Gojo given RBD, thus, my vote is clear.
If RBD isn't granted, then I still do believe Subaru wins via EMT, Murak, and EMM
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Class K Subaru sounds good to me. Lets buff him.
If I grab a knife with my 10-B strength, can I stab 7-B Julius and Roi? Just asking real quick.
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if you catch them off guard and they dont sense it intuitively (never happening) then yeah
there is a character in arc 7 who kills people higher than his tier using this strat
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Depending on the story yeah. Some verses just have people susceptible to normal piercing attacks. A lot of times also no. I would think if someone cut off a 3-B dudes arem they are also prolly 3-B by default imo.
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Then piercing damage shouldn't even be the argument because that doesn't work. The argument should be she stabbed Ram from the back.
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agree
UrongSygn1
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What if the knife was 7-B? 
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Invisible Providence actually lacks AP feats. Garfiel was weakened to a level where even Subaru could fight him. Regulus's pseudo-heart born of Little King has no reason to scale to anything. Ram was merely dragged off of Patrasche in the LN, not punched. Todd has his jaw broken and Subaru threatened that next time he'd blow his head off. It merely wrestled with Todd after that. Its best feat is bloodying the nose of a random royal knight squad captain in arc 10.
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Thoughts on Class K Subaru
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Never happening I'm afraid. Five million more gags of the girls massively outbenching Subaru.
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Hahahahahaha
You think Subaru would be so lucky? WoG claims Invisible Providence is less useful than Subaru's amateur shamak.
UrongSygn1
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I mean Shamak is kinda busted ngl
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Not even Reinhard can bypass Shamak
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everybody with a bit of skill who isnt Elsa can manage shamak lol
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