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Grievous vs Lucia (Star Wars vs Punishing Grey Raven)

Is it not 7? We can count OP's votes can't we? We have the OP, you, Doggo, Pyro, me, Still and Harith
 
Huh, color me slightly surprised that we get a PGR character vs General Grevious.



Anyway, if we consider the final fight with Grevious in Revenge of the Sith, she could literally rip apart his chest armor and destroy his heart, but at that point, Grevious is disarmed from using his lightsabers.


Normally I refrain from voting in versus matches, but to accelerate this, I vote Grevious.
 
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Or if possible, just take out General Grevious’s heart and he dies.

Hell, in both Legends and Canon, that is how Obi Wan takes him out although in the case of Obi Wan, he just used a blaster to destroy his heart.
....I hope you realize Grevious has the LS and Durability advantage. Lucia has zero chances of doing that at all.
 
....I hope you realize Grevious has the LS and Durability advantage. Lucia has zero chances of doing that at all.

Not sure on the Durability part as in the Clone Wars 2007 TV shows, he was literally defeated by a pair of Gungans.




I am aware of the LS part, but she can literally damage his armor by striking at the chest multiple times with her time slow ability using Striking Strength or find specific weak points in his armor too.

Hell, I used to play PGR, but that was a few years ago at that point
 
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Not sure on the Durability part as in the Clone Wars 2007 TV shows, he was literally defeated by a pair of Gungans.




I am aware of the LS part, but she can literally damage his armor by striking at the chest multiple times with her time slow ability using Striking Strength or find specific weak points in his armor too.

Hell, I used to play PGR, but that was a few years ago at that point

Yeah both Canon and Legends, that's basically a huge outlier. Grievous scales to Clone Wars Obi-Wan, you gonna say Anakin Skywalker<Gungans now? Or Count Dooku=Gungans?

Figure out yer scaling before saying shit, yeah?
 
Yeah both Canon and Legends, that's basically a huge outlier. Grievous scales to Clone Wars Obi-Wan, you gonna say Anakin Skywalker<Gungans now? Or Count Dooku=Gungans?

Figure out yer scaling before saying shit, yeah?

Ain’t using it as a scaling example, just using a example that literally involves the fact his armor does have weakpoints that can been exploited even ignoring the fact it is a outlier in the sense that he was outnumbered and the Gungans was using EMP against the Droid Army including him.

Also same applies to Obi Wan deciding to take apart his chest armor too.

I am well aware of how things are going in the general schemes of things.
 
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Ain’t using it as a scaling example, just using a example that literally involves the fact his armor does have weakpoints that can been exploited even ignoring the fact it is a outlier in the sense that he was outnumbered and the Gungans was using EMP against the Droid Army including him.
His weak points are still like 80 Megatons right now.
Also same applies to Obi Wan deciding to take apart his chest armor too.
You mean the same Obi-Wan who was at the time stronger than Grievous? And is much, MUUUUUCH stronger than Lucia here?
Also can’t really ignore Order 66 as well given that was a major narrative event as well plus the war against the Mandos in the past.
Blasters are heat-based, and Mando shit right now is in fact 7-B

So, either you have 7-B random Gungans, or it's an outlier because Grievous fights the 7-Bs about every 5 damn minutes.
 
Tomfooling aside, I think we can close this now. Kinda funny I find a way to actually upgrade Lucia's heat values in her Lotus key (like literally just earlier today) but that ain't something I plan to work on for likely a few months so it's kinda whatever
 
His weak points are still like 80 Megatons right now.

You mean the same Obi-Wan who was at the time stronger than Grievous? And is much, MUUUUUCH stronger than Lucia here?

Blasters are heat-based, and Mando shit right now is in fact 7-B

So, either you have 7-B random Gungans, or it's an outlier because Grievous fights the 7-Bs about every 5 damn minutes.

To being fair, Mando’s Tech is what make them literally ranked that high currently as far as I am aware and you can technically argue the same for the general ballpark of Star Wars tech as we talking about sci fi shenanigans mixed with the science fi fantasy that is the Force.


...Obi-Wan has higher AP and LS than Lucia so this does not work

That is not a massive argument though as apparently Lucia does have accelerate development and other shit including Damage Boost.




Like seriously, I don’t think the AP gap is that big for her to make it up with other way to cover for that matter.


The LS gap is something that is fine for now (again, don’t jinx that as literally no one care enough to even bother to check to look into it aside from one or two person there) although it does make me curious there and might actually have to double check a few things.
 
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Actually now I think about it, where the 80 Megatons came from anyway?

I trying to find the value on the verse page for Star Wars Canon, but I struggle to find it ngl.
 
the High Republic asteroird feat

Not too sure on that as it involves multiple jedi and a Republic cruiser and technically the calc was redone and brought up here.


It wasn’t done casually that is for sure and they actually struggled to perform the feat outright.


Hell, I even look into the novel for that feat in question too. This kinda makes me feel kinda confused when the calc was accounted for four Jedi and a ship.
 
Not too sure on that as it involves multiple jedi and a Republic cruiser and technically the calc was redone and brought up here.


It wasn’t done casually that is for sure and they actually struggled to perform the feat outright.


Hell, I even look into the novel for that feat in question too. This kinda makes me feel kinda confused when the calc was accounted for four Jedi and a ship.
Force UES...and Grevious tanking force pushes from Obi-Wan


Groovy scales to it
 
Force UES...and Grevious tanking force pushes from Obi-Wan


Groovy scales to it
The results should been divided though since it was with the efforts of the Four Jedi and a ship helping them.

Hmmm, the thread wasn’t even properly concluded too.

Yeah, I starting to have doubts on how the calc was applied as well when we have other calculations too as well.
 
The results should been divided though since it was with the efforts of the Four Jedi and a ship helping them.

Hmmm, the thread wasn’t even properly concluded too.

Yeah, I starting to have doubts on how the calc was applied as well when we have other calculations too as well.
I thought it is already divided
 
To being fair, Mando’s Tech is what make them literally ranked that high currently as far as I am aware and you can technically argue the same for the general ballpark of Star Wars tech as we talking about sci fi shenanigans mixed with the science fi fantasy that is the Force.
You want everyone to scale to everyone? You seem to, with this argument.
That is not a massive argument though as apparently Lucia does have accelerate development and other shit including Damage Boost.




Like seriously, I don’t think the AP gap is that big for her to make it up with other way to cover for that matter.
Before Grievous does what Grievous does and shreds? Yeah, it won't matter. He holds all relevant advantages.
It doesn’t seems like it to me and the calc blog never made it clear the results were divided hence my confusion on that matter
Either you think those are city-sized moons or you didn't pick up on the context clues that already divided the Calc.
 
You want everyone to scale to everyone? You seem to, with this argument.

Before Grievous does what Grievous does and shreds? Yeah, it won't matter. He holds all relevant advantages.

Either you think those are city-sized moons or you didn't pick up on the context clues that already divided the Calc.


Just to been clear, I talking about their tech and weaponry more specifically.

We already have weapon pages and stuff like this:




Also, technically speaking, there are two calcs of the same feat in question.





They didn’t actually do the divided results between the ship and the Jedi here in both versions of the calc I am looking at, but anyway, enough derailing from the versus debating side as it is getting late for me.
 
Just to been clear, I talking about their tech and weaponry more specifically.

We already have weapon pages and stuff like this:

If you took a shot for every character that's got 9-A durability scaling to blasters, you'd be dead by the end of the day. This includes stuff like B2 Super Battle Droids and Commando Droids by the way.
Also, technically speaking, there are two calcs of the same feat in question.
And only one is used. Mods don't care to look into it too much, so we're stuck with 7-B for now.


They didn’t actually do the divided results between the ship and the Jedi here in both versions of the calc I am looking
Yeah. We've known 7-B is technically wrong since the dinosaurs were ******* on the mountain tops. You volunteering to recalc it and then get that accepted?
 
If you took a shot for every character that's got 9-A durability scaling to blasters, you'd be dead by the end of the day. This includes stuff like B2 Super Battle Droids and Commando Droids by the way.

And only one is used. Mods don't care to look into it too much, so we're stuck with 7-B for now.

Yeah. We've known 7-B is technically wrong since the dinosaurs were ******* on the mountain tops. You volunteering to recalc it and then get that accepted?

Tbf, both versions were technically accepted by calcs members at the time.

Anyway, seriously though, this is best discussed on the inconclusive CRT or General thread to avoid cluttering this VS thread into oblivion with the jabs and all that snarkiness there.
 
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