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Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

Can someone please tell @Azertyhuuh to remove Reiner's vote here? We have tried to tell him to remove it, but he refuses to listen to anyone that go against him that isn't staff.

(Reiner is no longer a staff so his vote dosen't count, and needs to be removed)
@Azertyhuuh you should remove Reiner from the vote list. I asked him off site.
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No more clogging this thread anymore.
 
Might be off-topic, but since we are discussing about votes generally, I think actually HR or Admins need to clarify if retired staff vote counts, cuz i see ongoing threads have Reiner vote too, so idk if we count retired staff or not

I don't mind if we count retired staff vote, but it just needs some clarification to not confuse users in future.
 
@Azertyhuuh You need to be more respectful of other people. The frequency at which you dismiss people outright and imply they're beneath you or don't know anything is not acceptable.

@Ruler_Star_Kuma Two wrongs don't make a right. We can all tell Azerty was being passive-aggressive, but that doesn't give you a free pass to be active-aggressive. Next time just go straight to reporting them rather than stirring up more drama in the thread.
Well, I understand your point, but I am not acting this way because I want to. I end up being attacked by a group of people at once with incorrect arguments, and they flood the thread. How would you react if you were the only one debating while more than 10 people opposed you at the same time, supporting each other to defend mistakes and inaccurate information? They even support each other over objectively false claims.

Astral came and reopened topics that had already been discussed in a previous thread and were already accepted. That discussion itself reached 16 pages, yet he was not even aware of it. He came into my thread and started debating points that had already been accepted, which turned the thread into chaos. The problem is that the members supporting him are backing him up normally without even checking the prior discussion.

When I came into his thread before and mentioned something that had already been accepted, he himself told me not to discuss already accepted matters and said that I was derailing the thread.

@FinePoint You personally may remember that in a Tensura discussion, you warned someone against reopening already accepted topics because it was disrupting and derailing the discussion, and you told them to make separate threads for things that had already been accepted.

Now imagine being alone against more than 10 opposing people who support each other, spread inaccurate information, and attack points that were already accepted, while not even knowing what was accepted, what exists already, or the reasons behind those conclusions. I explained it to him, another staff member explained it to him, and another supporter explained it to him as well, yet after all of that, he still said that “incorrect things can be debated here normally,” meaning he still wanted to reopen already accepted topics and flood the thread, even though the original accepted discussion already lasted 16 pages.

I am not saying my behavior is perfect, but when you are put in situations like this, things become extremely difficult if you do not defend yourself strongly enough.
 
How would you react if you were the only one debating while more than 10 people opposed you at the same time, supporting each other to defend mistakes and inaccurate information? They even support each other over objectively false claims.
I would present my argument as clearly as possible, including why I think the opposition is categorically incorrect, then trust that the staff would see past the noise and land on a position that was at least logical.

If I thought everyone else was acting in bad faith or spamming, I would report them.
If I determined that even the staff present were being completely irrational, then I would appeal to different staff.
If I determined that there was not a single staff member capable of seeing reason and in a position to help, then frankly I would just stop using the website.

I can tell you that at the very least I wouldn't start insulting everyone. It would not benefit my position in any way, it would only give them reason to dismiss me and make it about that.
 
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