The story doesn't put enough narrative weight on the villains having multiple All Might level soldiers. They're not treated like complete jobbers but they phased out other Nomu types who are just as dangerous to the world which made them unimportant.
I don’t recall Burnin beating them solo.
I'm not saying they should or shouldn't be, but weakened All Might can change the weather with a punch or send his opponents flying into the sky. The High End Nomu were never given a hugely impacting strength feat that was reminiscent of weakened All Might's most impressive moments.
I can understand this thought process.
If that happened there would be big “hype moments and aura” complaints lobbied towards the arc. I think the Nomu became less relevant cos they’re honestly kinda boring character wise (besides Hood and Kurogiri). Still would’ve been nice to see them in more fights, but not really a big deal.
Wasn’t that feat only in Vigilantes? He never did anything like that in the main series. Even then, it feels like the Anime buffed that feat anyway. In the manga it fits with Deku travelling 200km in a relatively short timeframe.
I wouldn’t call Toga vs Deku stalling. It’s important for both Toga and Uraraka’s arcs and sets up their final confrontation.
Not really. One of the biggest complains about the war is how disneyfied it was and how much plot armor the heores side has so if anything, this makes the WAR look like a War.If that happened there would be big “hype moments and aura” complaints lobbied towards the arc. I think the Nomu became less relevant cos they’re honestly kinda boring character wise (besides Hood and Kurogiri). Still would’ve been nice to see them in more fights, but not really a big deal.Also maybe Toga is just 45% Deku level. I mean, she was apparently a massive threat to the heroes with Sadman’s Death Parade, Hawks and Endeavour included
Not really. In the main series he jumps around everywhere when he has the power. Even Shiggy himself jumps across Jaku in a single leap just in a few seconds.
Their final confrontation was already setup in the first war when Toga slimed the old woman.
Same reason why so many people think Izuku is still at 45% during the Final War. (Even though he visually has better feats.)
Almost every new gen gets the Disney complaints, that doesn’t really mean anything. JJK was killing characters left and right in its final arc and still got Disney complaints. It was always going to get those complaints, adding in a scene of Deku fighting nameless blob enemies doesn’t achieve anything other than pad out the arc with meaningless filler. I would have liked to see them fighting the other students a bit more though, give Sato’s bum-ass something to do.
Deku travels 200 Km in a short period of time as well during this arc. There’s not really a contradiction with the main series.
True, but this doesn't allow for Toga to have a final interaction with Deku. It’s this moment that truly sends her off the deep end as a villain, forsaking her feelings in pursuit of her friends goals (a parallel to Uraraka’s own burying of her feelings).
theres valdo if you want to count the movies
I am talking about the show. Kinda wild if you think about it.
That still isn’t a good reason to call it disneyfied when Choso and Sukuna, the only ones who could share in Yuji’s experience of immortality, both die along with Yuji’s own mentor. And let’s not forget that it happened to Modulo as well, people just shut up about that cos the CSM ending wasn’t long after.
That fight was important for his character though. It proved that his philosophy of trying to save villains was not in vain and could work. What does a fight against multiple High-ends do other than provide hype and aura, and drag out the story?
This is partly because of his dogshit travel speed. 45% is the last base percentage fans saw him use so it's not unreasonable for them to assume it.
Which is ironic because strictly in terms of the manga, Raid War Deku and Tomura had better visual feats.
I never said nagant fight wasn't important. I was point out the sheer void of Deku fights.
That’s the whole point of the Shigaraki fight though. We have a direct point of comparison between the two’s power before and after the Dark Hero - UA Traitor arc (PLW Shiggy vs 45% Deku and Complete Shiggy vs Gearshift Deku) to show that, where the outcomes are different (first fight - heroes kinda win by skin of their teeth before AFO possesses Shiggy and second fight - Deku defeats ShigAFO on his own (after ShigAFO has easily defeated the other heroes) making an utter mockery of him).
The Star and Stripe and Endeavour fights do that for Shigaraki. It is true that Deku doesn’t really have anything in that regard, but that’s where the Gearshift fight comes in to show us how much stronger he is. That’s a better set up for him being a Titan than him fighting Nomu imo, especially with all the reference to AFO being a perfected Nomu. It’s a classic example of the “Godzilla threshold” trope, the author should refrain from showing the thing that people are waiting for (ie Deku at his strongest) until the moment where it will achieve its greatest effect (ie the fight with the most powerful villain). It’s why horror movies don’t show the monster until the end, it builds hype for how the monster will look like.
I think the better option for utilising the Nomu more is, again, to see them fight against some of the other students. Like, give Sato something to do, Deku’s got like 4 fights in this arc as is.
It’s kinda more of a jumping than a war. It’s called a war arc but that kinda just means there’s gonna be loads of battles. Both parties did have strategy anyway, it’s just that AFO thought that they’d just get there and destroy them in one swoop. He had no idea that they could use Warp Gate as he didn’t know about Monoma’s quirk so he didn’t plan around that. And his sludge warp has a limited range, so he can’t just teleport them willy-nilly. In fact, the reason why the Nomu’s couldn’t all fight Deku was due to the heroes’ strategy.
if Sato fought a Nomu, it would make them even more unimpressive.
I honestly wouldn’t care if it made Sato a better character. The Nomu can’t really get any depth as characters (again, besides Kurogiri kinda and maybe Hood), so I’m perfectly okay with just sacrificing their “aura” for lack of a better word, to improve some of the less expanded upon side characters.
I mean, Sato did punch out AFO in Shiggy’s weakened body. If him and Ojiro fought hard to take down a Nomu, with flashbacks showing their respective backstories it could make for a decent fight sequence. And I don’t really think the Nomu are that unimpressive anyway, just that the verse’s power creep put a lot of characters up to WAM tier. Hell, Mirko is near PAM tier by the end of the series. I’ve said before, but All Might as of Season 1 is just thought to be stronger than he is due to in verse propaganda and his public persona hiding his true fears.
Doesn’t really mean anything for AP unfortunately since Decay is hax. We also know he is limited to Japan for some reason as he says there will be “nothing left except sea and sky”, implying he can’t decay under the ocean from Japan. This implies that he won’t destroy the world in one shot, but rather multiple decays perhaps across different landmasses.I started watching the anime in different languages, and in the Spanish dub it's mentioned that Shigaraki will destroy the entire planet
he wouldnt get any cool points from beating a Nomu if the Nomus themselves arent respectable threats
literally everyone was farming ShigAFO
they dont have backstories
He’d get more than he does in the current version of the story. Especially if they were all struggling to beat it at first. Have it be an army if you need to.
Give them one then. Or just emphasise his love for his classmates, just give him something.they dont have backstories
their flashbacks would just be them as regular civilians living regular lives
No one harmed his main body besides Deku, Sato and Ojiro. Not saying that Sato is stronger than all the other heroes there, just that he’s not the weakest of characters in the series and maybe one of the strongest in the Class.
And also, the manga states multiple times that Deku's equipment can't handle 100%. When Deku gets the replica mid-gaunlets from Hatsume, she says they aren't even as good as the ones Deku was using in the Dark hero arc, the same ones AM stated couldn't handle 100%. Plus, the Kudo statement when Deku is flying to the Coffin in the sky. It seems like everyone just kind of ignored all that.
The problem with the statements about his equipment is that they're just lies. They tank attacks from Shigaraki constantly and even endure being on Deku when he uses his 120% attacks.
Second user filled with shit (least reliable user to take feats from imo) he said you have 5 minute finish this up with gear shift deku used it longer then 5 minutes. 100% then is weird because how is 45% deku able to block prime might shig punches mid air.
Another problem with this is that it’s stated his Quintuple Detroit Smash was weaker than his Fa Jin + Blackwhip kick combo, even though both should push him above 100%, and the gear is fine. Not to mention, when he uses a 120% attack before Quintuple, his gear is fine. On top of that, when he uses Fa Jin + Overdrive, gear is still fine. It really only breaks when he’s losing his Quirks, injured, and using his Overlay form. I don’t think 45% Deku and his gear could be doing all of that without 100. if 45% Deku’s best feat was breaking an incomplete Shigaraki’s jaw.
Yeah, this is most likely it. He literally says to All Might during the Dark Hero arc that he can perform attacks on All Might’s level with no recoil. Given how the coffin battle with ShigAFO is supposed to show Deku’s affinity with OFA, it stands to reason that the sequence is portraying him using Fa Jin (and maybe Gearshift) to nullify the recoil of his 100%.
Gearshift has several gears, the highest being the top gear and the absolute slowest we’ve seen it go was “low gear” which seemed to slow Deku down at best.
Gearshift can slow things and people down to snail pace he has shown this
izuku used low gear to freeze things at least twice by my memory.
Gearshift is just "changing speed while ignoring inertia"; the gears are how Deku uses it, they're not something the Quirk had by default (so to speak). Anyway, if we base it on what that change of speed without inertia is, it should reduce something to 0 or an unmovable level. Furthermore, couldn't he freeze in mid-air when Shigaraki was about to strike him by prediction?
