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1 Staff Vote needed! Drawn to Life CRT and profile overhaul

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It’s never stated that the Creator made anything beyond the multiple solar systems – or, more accurately, the sun, moon, and night sky. While he clearly scales to Wilfre’s multi-solar system feat, the "Universal" rating on his profile feels baseless since there is no evidence of anything existing past the multiple star systems. It is Wilfre’s scepter that performs the feat, and the Book of Life shows no evidence of scaling beyond this. Since the Creator creates the night sky containing the star systems Wilfre destroyed, both he and the Book should be Multi-Solar System level.

From what I can gather, the "Universal" claim stems from the idea that the Creator destroys the universe – but he doesn't. As of Two Realms, he simply wakes Mike from his coma and transports him out of the Raposa realm. The human and Raposa realms are actually parallel worlds; Mike’s happy last memory of the plushies allowed him to become part of the Raposa realm during his coma, and those same memories link the two realms together. This allows Mike and the Hero of Two Realms (a different entity from the other two) to travel freely between them via the Book of Imagination. The Raposa realm existed before Mike and continues to exist after him. While it’s stated the Creator is the literal Christian God, suggesting he also created the human realm, it is never explicitly said. Honestly, the multiversal implication is more likely than the universal one, and that’s a stretch.

Wilfre's Profile

Since the player never actually fights Base Wilfre, only Wilfre with the Book of Life, I wish to separate the keys as follows:

  • Drawn to Life | Drawn to Life: The Next Chapter
  • 4-A | 4-A

Then, under Powers and Abilities:

  • Tabber 1: Base and Book of Life abilities
  • Tabber 2: Scepter and Ultimate Creation (Wilfre doesn't actually use the Book of Life in this fight other than to make the Ultimate Creation, however should have the same abilities as with the Book of Life).

Removals

  • Immunity to Plot Manipulation - Removed because the games do not reference plot manipulation. There is no implication that all of existence is contained within the book, especially since the human realm is ambiguous regarding its creation.
  • Spatial Manipulation - Removed; the book does not bend space in a way that qualifies as spatial manipulation.
  • Time Manipulation remains valid.

Changes

  • Void Manipulation → Existence Erasure: Fits better; Wilfre can already erase existence with his staff, but this ability is more powerful and distinct due to him being able to tear out a page and that object cease to exist.
  • Speed should be at least subsonic for the first tab; he scales to the next chapter's hero with the sceptre not in the first game
  • Reality Warping → Creation: The book did not create all of existence, only parts, so “creation” is more accurate.
  • Color + Life Manipulation → grouped under Scepter

In-lore: Color manipulation is equivalent to manipulating life force.

Range


Additions


Weakness (for first key)

  • Cannot create within the Book of Life without the result being twisted or dark - a limitation of his creations.

Creator’s Profile Updates

Removals

  • Spatial Manipulation
  • Plot Manipulation
  • Reality Warping
  • Telepathy (there's no evidence that he speaks via telepathy, as opposed to just speaking)

Groupings

  • Color Manipulation, Life Manipulation, Summoning, and Animal Manipulation (sent Turtle Rock to aid the Raposa; can colorize animals like whales and flying fish and bring them to life)

Additions

  • Clairvoyance (knew that the mayor was in danger)
  • Portal Creation (created various gates which lead to areas around the continent)
  • Fire Manipulation (created the Eternal Flame)
  • Purification (Darkness Dispelling)
  • Healing via Eternal Flame (able to wake up Mike from a coma)
  • Size Manipulation via Kaorin Bushes
  • Platform Creation via Action Draw Altar presets
  • Equipment: Book of Life
  • BFR via Banishment (banished the Shadow to the Human Realm)

Weaknesses

  • Creator needs pages/templates from the Book of Life to create or restore things.
  • Pages are one-of-a-kind and cannot be recreated.
  • Cannot clear darkness without the Eternal Flame.
Agree: AyOgUyS, Re5yh, Apex_Predator_GX
Disagree (partially): y3p_owo
 
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The last Drawn to Life CRT was being bumped for almost a year so let's hope lol
 
I forgot about adding Platform Creation to the creator and Social Influencing to Wilfre whoops-
 
I disagree with the downgrade section.

If the Creator did simply just needed to wake up Mike and transport him out, then Wilfre's entire plan and the whole finale where everyone is scared but willing to go through with being erased means ultimately nothing since... they had to be erased to save Mike. While yes, Two Realms did make it so that the Raposa's World still exists, but only exists due to Mike's memories of it.
Not only that, but the Raposa's World is flat out a parallel one from Mike's world, with everyone in it being Raposas instead of humans.

I know it's weird, but I genuinely don't believe that the Creator didn't destroy the Raposa's World.


Everything else I agree with though.
 
I disagree with the downgrade section.

If the Creator did simply just needed to wake up Mike and transport him out, then Wilfre's entire plan and the whole finale where everyone is scared but willing to go through with being erased means ultimately nothing since... they had to be erased to save Mike. While yes, Two Realms did make it so that the Raposa's World still exists, but only exists due to Mike's memories of it.
Not only that, but the Raposa's World is flat out a parallel one from Mike's world, with everyone in it being Raposas instead of humans.

I know it's weird, but I genuinely don't believe that the Creator didn't destroy the Raposa's World.


Everything else I agree with though.
So, we know cosmologically that time in the Rapo world is equal to the Human one, just with am and pm reversed. Several characters discuss a time far back in the past via dialogue (Mari's bloodline alone is logged for at least 7 generations). Mari in Two Realms uses the phrase 'transported', not created when discussing how Mike ended up in the human realm. Similarly, while I haven't beaten two realms because it's ass, the wiki uses the phrase of Mike 'cutting off' the Rapo realm, not destroying.

So if the creator did destroy the realm, the timeline is as follows:

A world that exists many years before Mike is born > Mike is transported via coma > the creator has to destroy and entire realm to wake up a child? > The realm is actually fine

While I believe the original intention was for the world to be destroyed, that's not the case by the time of Two Realms, as obviously Two Realms wasn't considered when development of the Next Chapter was happening. The only conclusion I can see was that Wilfre was wrong. He learned something, presumably through the possession of Heather, and mistook it as him not existing (I mean, you would, right?).
 
Kinda wild how long this one is taking😭

I noticed a scaling error with the durability and such from the predecessors who made the profile

Can this one be closed and I make a new one with the updates and get back to bumping for eternity?


NEVERMIND the scorpion saves the scaling chain
 
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