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'Infinite' Stamina Conditions
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Firstly, quoting our standards
Robots need fuel. Zombies can also get tired in various fictional media, so on and so forth. Giving them infinite stamina purely based on that is exaggerating it.
However, I don't agree with the idea of it requiring self repair or regeneration by default. To begin with, infinite stamina just means having inexhaustible physical or magical energy. As the current rating says, infinite stamina does not account for injuries or searing pain a character experiences.
For example, if there's a robot that can work perpetually without ever needing energy in a setting, will get infinite stamina, even though the metal it's made up of can wear and tear overtime.
So just adding an additional note to the page below the infinite stamina rating would be sufficient
Personally, I don't think robots or those that don't have conventional human biology can qualify for infinite stamina by default.
Robots need fuel. Zombies can also get tired in various fictional media, so on and so forth. Giving them infinite stamina purely based on that is exaggerating it.
However, I don't agree with the idea of it requiring self repair or regeneration by default. To begin with, infinite stamina just means having inexhaustible physical or magical energy. As the current rating says, infinite stamina does not account for injuries or searing pain a character experiences.
For example, if there's a robot that can work perpetually without ever needing energy in a setting, will get infinite stamina, even though the metal it's made up of can wear and tear overtime.
So just adding an additional note to the page below the infinite stamina rating would be sufficient
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I guess it fits that definition of Infinite Stamina, though I feel on its own it kinda loops back to there not being infinite stamina if they genuinely have a limit to how much they can continue the fight.
For their own body to have that level of stamina, they should naturally just have their own way of sustaining themselves otherwise it kinda proves its possibly to just wittle someone down/get weaker overtime, which isnt necessarily a trait of Infinite Stamina. But thats the wiki definition of it and this CRT doesnt seek to change that, only enforce the standard and remove all weak reasonings of 'Infinite' and 'Limitless'.
I dont know if there are any other terms to differentiate, cause in debates of longevity then Stamina does play a big factor.
For their own body to have that level of stamina, they should naturally just have their own way of sustaining themselves otherwise it kinda proves its possibly to just wittle someone down/get weaker overtime, which isnt necessarily a trait of Infinite Stamina. But thats the wiki definition of it and this CRT doesnt seek to change that, only enforce the standard and remove all weak reasonings of 'Infinite' and 'Limitless'.
I dont know if there are any other terms to differentiate, cause in debates of longevity then Stamina does play a big factor.
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Yeah, basically there is a difference between stamina and endurance.
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@Planck69 @Maverick_Zero_X @Crabwhale @Colonel_Krukov @SamanPatou @SomebodyData Your input here would also be appreciated.
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I’m mostly in agreement with Raiki. This seems like an issue that comes from not examining the reasoning closely enough, with certain types of characters being automatically granted it without sufficient evidence.
Though it is important to separate stamina from things such as magical energy if the verse never treats them as the same thing. There are plenty of cases where mages are powerful with magic but physically weak, and likewise, plenty of cases where they run out of physical stamina while still having plenty of mana.
Just having infinite mana wouldn’t mean having infinite stamina unless the two are linked or correlated in-verse, since even with infinite mana, you could still pass out from exhaustion.
Though it is important to separate stamina from things such as magical energy if the verse never treats them as the same thing. There are plenty of cases where mages are powerful with magic but physically weak, and likewise, plenty of cases where they run out of physical stamina while still having plenty of mana.
Just having infinite mana wouldn’t mean having infinite stamina unless the two are linked or correlated in-verse, since even with infinite mana, you could still pass out from exhaustion.
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Well there seems to be unanimous agreement from mods overall that Infinite Stamina should always be justified properly, and not just given for being robots, or undead just because of what they are (unless theres supporting referenced evidence)
I agree Stamina should be separated when applicable in regards to either physical or magical energies
What else needs to be done? And are all the outcomes in OP agreeable?
I agree Stamina should be separated when applicable in regards to either physical or magical energies
What else needs to be done? And are all the outcomes in OP agreeable?
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Actually, in some situation i saw people putting endurance feat in stamina section. Remember we have High Pain Tolerance as an ability in P&A section before? It got removed and is now feat like that is under stamina section
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I know, endurance is like a rough in between hybrid between stamina and durability, and roughly an equivalent of the hit points statistics taking game mechanics literally; with durability being a defense stat that reduces damage per hit. Stamina is more flexible on what things one can do without tiring, in which endurance feats can still be mentioned in the stamina section. Much like how Wisdom and Charisma feats can be mentioned in intelligence section but we do not give intelligence ratings for them.
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Ngl, thinking about my own post and your post, i feel like we can do the infinite stamina similar to intelligence, with listing multiple aspects of stamina. We are currently already in some profile listing general intelligence feat separate with combat intelligence, we can just do similar thing to stamina
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Stamina is already considered in multiple aspects right? at least with the developed quality (and applicable) profiles.
I will say that i think having a High Pain Tolerance and Supernatural Willpower, while similar are different enough to warrant separate explanations
All I want is stuff like 'Stamina: Infinite' for little to no reason to be gone
I will say that i think having a High Pain Tolerance and Supernatural Willpower, while similar are different enough to warrant separate explanations
All I want is stuff like 'Stamina: Infinite' for little to no reason to be gone
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