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Sorry for the late reply, but it added a some stuff to Kronos, a new event (on Kronos Island) and more gambling.
I've got all the event dialogue (plus some bonuses) here:
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Sonic General Discussion Zone Act 1: New Frontiers
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I've got all the event dialogue (plus some bonuses) here:
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Reading them it really makes me sad that they had to get rid of the cyber skills (Same goes for Superstars Emerald Powers being related to a single place instead of being the power of the emeralds themselves).
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They want excuse to not having to bring em up every time.
Oh and Dark Sonic by definition is overhyped because it appeared in one episode of anime lol Tho Sonic X stuff does get used so who knows if that form could somehow return.
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Should he do anything else? What would even be the point? If you use him more, it would become overused and the intrigue of the form just goes away. I already explained this in my message, but the scene was impactful due to the stakes in the situation. There weren't many/better examples in the show because it had never been that personal. The point of the form was to show another shade, no pun intended, of Sonic's character based off of the stakes in that current moment. Chris was literally stabbed and left to bleed out in a glass orb with Cosmo watching on in horror and she couldn't do anything while Sonic couldn't do anything either. I feel like this take misses the point.
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It is overhyped by fan stuff (fans also are on record of misinterpreting stuff all the time because of a lack of media literacy), but the narrative of the scene isn't bad nor does it betray his character. The scene makes sense.
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It's funny because it's mostly Blaxe that latches onto Silver because she doesn't really show up in mainline games much versus him.
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If you dont count Rush games its only 06 and Generations cameos for Blaze jfc
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All of this discussion makes me long for more side stories to explore the worlds of Blaze's Sol Dimension and Silver's future. Don't know how long we're gonna have to wait before we can explore those places in proper games, or if we'll have an opportunity like that, so at the very least some side stories like manga, or even smaller games would be a good opportunity to do that.
I for one yearn for a Silver spin-off manga where we can explore Silver's good future, with maybe some time traveling hijinks in the middle part of it, and a chance to give Silver some friends in the good future. My favorite ideas for such things are a Cyborg friend, a female AI companion since Japan loves AI waifu girls, and a robot friend of sorts. And of course a rogue gallery with some fun antagonists Silver can bounce off of in a monster of the week format type approach, with some inspiration from Tokusatsu and Magical Girl Classics, or robot shows like Brave or Eldran.
I for one yearn for a Silver spin-off manga where we can explore Silver's good future, with maybe some time traveling hijinks in the middle part of it, and a chance to give Silver some friends in the good future. My favorite ideas for such things are a Cyborg friend, a female AI companion since Japan loves AI waifu girls, and a robot friend of sorts. And of course a rogue gallery with some fun antagonists Silver can bounce off of in a monster of the week format type approach, with some inspiration from Tokusatsu and Magical Girl Classics, or robot shows like Brave or Eldran.
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Well, that and Sonic Colors DS, where she meets Silver again
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Tbh if Dark Sonic does return, I'd love to see him in a story like "a painful reality VS. a false paradise" type of story. Dark Sonic would be perfect for that given you represent "a false paradise" with light.
also unrelated to the current discussions but I think it's a little funny how Gerald's dialogue made some people think Sonic and co. were only reexperiencing the past instead of restoring space-time themselves, like
also unrelated to the current discussions but I think it's a little funny how Gerald's dialogue made some people think Sonic and co. were only reexperiencing the past instead of restoring space-time themselves, like
"When the Sonic's run through these stages and re-live the past, they cause a chain-reaction that causes space-time to heal itself!"
"Then I guess we better relive the past to cause chain-reactions like there's no tomorrow, or there won't be a tomorrow!"
"Sonic, you caused chain-reactions that can restore our friends, I bet you can relive the past and make a chain-reaction that'll restore the Chaos Emerald to full power too!"
"Then I guess we better relive the past to cause chain-reactions like there's no tomorrow, or there won't be a tomorrow!"
"Sonic, you caused chain-reactions that can restore our friends, I bet you can relive the past and make a chain-reaction that'll restore the Chaos Emerald to full power too!"
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My friend actually had a cool idea of Dark Sonic being used against an enemy utilizing the positive aspects of chaos energy in a profane way, so Sonic uses dark power to balance out the toxic light.
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That actually sounds really cool.
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Yeah, I like it a lot cuz it emphasizes that too much positivity can STILL be toxic.
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I've seen that happen first hand. It's not fun.
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The Dread™.
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That Invulnerability revamp thread has passed and is about to be applied, likely with a follow-up thread to determine who qualifies. If that follow-up thread does happen, I'll create a thread to outline the qualifications for mechanisms for Supers that I've found as that thread has been unravelling.
I know I've been harping in people to not make threads, but this wouldn't be adding or changing anything should all go well.
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I'm dying from curiosity.
Random thought. Does the "expanded explanation" regarding HyperTimelines in the FAQ affect your blog?
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Reminds me of all the fanart with future Sage being Silver's antagonist while Omega & Gemerl are his remaining allies there.
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Hang in there bro, at least until GTA 6.
Thankfully not, from what I've been observing.
Yeah that is insane
So, so real.
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In the name of Gaia, why is Imgflip, of all sites, giving me problems right now!?
I'm trying to post just a little meme
Anyway, could White Space qualify for a "possibly 6D" rating? I'm asking this because, IIRC, Maginary World seems to be treated as "possibly infinite 5D" and WS does have a statement of being "endless" in size, making the timeless void potentially bigger in order to contain the entire cosmology.
Tbh, I have some problems understanding why it's "1 layer in terms of range" (or smth like that).
I'm trying to post just a little meme
Anyway, could White Space qualify for a "possibly 6D" rating? I'm asking this because, IIRC, Maginary World seems to be treated as "possibly infinite 5D" and WS does have a statement of being "endless" in size, making the timeless void potentially bigger in order to contain the entire cosmology.
Tbh, I have some problems understanding why it's "1 layer in terms of range" (or smth like that).
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Question for y'all. Who do y'all think was the very first enemy that actually challenged Super Sonic and gave him a hard fight?
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Def someone in the Classic era, the big picks are Final Weapon, Phantom King, and Black Dragon
I'd say Final Weapon since Super Sonic was getting stunned from just attacking it himself, and was also stunned by its attacks
Phantom king could harm Super Sonic and take away his rings and Black Dragon could make black holes that are meant to one-shot him (casual large planetary black hole feat?)
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Metal Overlord.
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Anyone have more evidence for Low 1-C to 1-C base cast? I've been gathering feats for a possible CRT in the future (once the current stuff is resolved ofc) and this is what I currently have:
1. Base Sonic survives Time Eater's blows, and Time Eater is 1-C via threatening all space and time (Scales to Generations and onwards base Sonic and all those who scale to him)
2. The base cast fights Void, who is Low 1-C via threatening the Precioustone which sustains the currently accepted 5-D Maginaryworld (Scales to Sonic Shuffle and onwards base Sonic, Knuckles, and Amy, and all those who scale to them)
3. One Chaos Emerald forced back Time Eater, so maybe a single Emerald can be 1-C? And this would upgrade all characters who use Chaos Emerald power like Perfect Chaos, and this upscales the base cast since base Sonic beat Perfect Chaos in Generations (this also means all Super Forms are 1-C by default)...but I'm not too sure on this one
4. Infinite being said stronger than all pre-Forces enemies (which technically includes like Solaris and Time Eater) and base Sonic survives a beat down from Infinite and later beats him (I know this is contentious but with all the other evidence of the base cast being Low 1-C to even 1-C, just to a lesser extent than Super Forms, I don't think its too ridiculous) and as consistency for Infinite upscaling Super Form level characters, he fights Super Shadow in Sonic Speed Simulator so the intention from SEGA that he is indeed a Super level threat that gets surpassed by the base cast is clearly there (Scales to Forces onwards base Sonic and all those who scale to him)
5. Base Sonic surviving attacks from the Titans who are currently 1-C I think (Scales to Frontiers onwards base Sonic and all those who scale to him)
6. Base Sonic and Knuckles surviving attacks from a casual Super Neo (I don't think this alone is enough for any upscaling but with all the other feats, I don't find it too ridiculous anymore)...tho hey maybe this is a super neo upscale from potentially 1-C to solidly 1-C if the base cast being 1-C gets accepted
7. The base cast being able to deal minor but still visible damage to Master Overlord (Scales to everyone in the fight who dealt damage which off of memory are: Sonic, Knuckles, and Blaze...and ofc anybody else who scales to them)
8. Sage briefly blocking attacks from The End which I think is already accepted and on her profile (Not sure anybody else in the main cast directly scales but still)
I'd appreciate feedback on what I should add, revise, or remove.
1. Base Sonic survives Time Eater's blows, and Time Eater is 1-C via threatening all space and time (Scales to Generations and onwards base Sonic and all those who scale to him)
2. The base cast fights Void, who is Low 1-C via threatening the Precioustone which sustains the currently accepted 5-D Maginaryworld (Scales to Sonic Shuffle and onwards base Sonic, Knuckles, and Amy, and all those who scale to them)
3. One Chaos Emerald forced back Time Eater, so maybe a single Emerald can be 1-C? And this would upgrade all characters who use Chaos Emerald power like Perfect Chaos, and this upscales the base cast since base Sonic beat Perfect Chaos in Generations (this also means all Super Forms are 1-C by default)...but I'm not too sure on this one
4. Infinite being said stronger than all pre-Forces enemies (which technically includes like Solaris and Time Eater) and base Sonic survives a beat down from Infinite and later beats him (I know this is contentious but with all the other evidence of the base cast being Low 1-C to even 1-C, just to a lesser extent than Super Forms, I don't think its too ridiculous) and as consistency for Infinite upscaling Super Form level characters, he fights Super Shadow in Sonic Speed Simulator so the intention from SEGA that he is indeed a Super level threat that gets surpassed by the base cast is clearly there (Scales to Forces onwards base Sonic and all those who scale to him)
5. Base Sonic surviving attacks from the Titans who are currently 1-C I think (Scales to Frontiers onwards base Sonic and all those who scale to him)
6. Base Sonic and Knuckles surviving attacks from a casual Super Neo (I don't think this alone is enough for any upscaling but with all the other feats, I don't find it too ridiculous anymore)...tho hey maybe this is a super neo upscale from potentially 1-C to solidly 1-C if the base cast being 1-C gets accepted
7. The base cast being able to deal minor but still visible damage to Master Overlord (Scales to everyone in the fight who dealt damage which off of memory are: Sonic, Knuckles, and Blaze...and ofc anybody else who scales to them)
8. Sage briefly blocking attacks from The End which I think is already accepted and on her profile (Not sure anybody else in the main cast directly scales but still)
I'd appreciate feedback on what I should add, revise, or remove.
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well i'm not proposing that the entire cast should scale, maybe I was unclear, just that those who have shown feats (like Shadow and Metal Sonic fighting post-Forces Sonic and Knuckles just being portrayed as physically stronger than Sonic alongside dealing visual damage to Master Overlord), should scale I'm not tryna say that like Cream should scale cuz I don't think she ever fights any character on these levels
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oh and i'd appreciate some help on the aftermath of this if these changes were to be accepted, what characters would scale, how would the scaling chains change, etc.
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oh and i'd really really appreciate feedback on this potential line of scaling because its probably the most potentially controversial one
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That does make more sense.
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Maybe there's smth here.
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Thank you!
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Well I want to gather info from Sonic supporters before posting what will likely be a very controversial and heated CRT
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Also, if you buy the idea that Solaris existed at some point with the Time Eater's meddling, since Mephiles and Crisis City (ergo Iblis) exist, maaaaaybe? But that's just headcanon at that point. I think.In the name of Gaia, why is Imgflip, of all sites, giving me problems right now!?
I'm trying to post just a little meme
Anyway, could White Space qualify for a "possibly 6D" rating? I'm asking this because, IIRC, Maginary World seems to be treated as "possibly infinite 5D" and WS does have a statement of being "endless" in size, making the timeless void potentially bigger in order to contain the entire cosmology.
Tbh, I have some problems understanding why it's "1 layer in terms of range" (or smth like that).
Mega Death Egg Robot using the Phantom Ruby in Forces (and losing to triple boost without a super form), and modern super forms facing the Phantom Ruby in Speed Simulator must make the scaling for that weird.
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You shouldn't do any tier 1 upgrades yet. At least wait for the imgur stuff to end
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