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This CRT will be going over the scaling, helped along by some new calcs and upgrades. So the scaling currently is a little bit of a mess mostly due to the age of the profiles, and how hard the series actually makes it to scale these people. Unfortunately it hasnt gotten any easier, but we can try.
For overall Level, we know this is extremely important because most quotes when regarding someone's strength/power refers to their overall Level. There'll be more showings of this later, but just to give a few
However, we also know that the level of a particular stat can matter equally as much
Difficulty Ranking is a minor thing that gets brought up. It's used by New World adventurers to rank how difficult something is to beat, and seems to operate similar to Levels, but on a 3x scale.
More evidence comes in the number given for Orichalcum adventurers
Although he's much stronger than Zenburu, we also have another relative low tier, Zero, an Adamantite adventurer equivalent, which puts him at Level ~26-30, making shockwaves with his punches
Here's where Difficulty Ranking comes in. You see, it's said that it's possible to triumph over someone ranked 15 points higher than you. When converted to Levels this would be 5 Levels
For a supporting statement, we have Ainz pondering Azuth's Powered Suit
This is consistent with Sebas catching the tip of a whip-like sword, with the narration explicitly mentioning the supersonic properties of the tip of a whip, with our profile of a whip stating the tip can reach Mach 2.
The current Supersonic+ calc not only doesnt actually have any approval, but also after speaking with @SeijiSetto as an attempt to get one, they pointed out how the calc is actually inflated due to the user's accidental use of radians instead of degrees. Thus it will be removed, with the value the top tiers scale to instead being the 890 m/s stated above.
Establishing The Importance of Overall Levels, Specific Stat Levels, and Difficulty Ranking
So for the basis of the scaling, we're gonna go off of a mix of overall Level and using stats from Character Sheets, the rare times they're given, and some help from the Difficulty Ranking, a method used by New World adventurers to rate how strong things are.For overall Level, we know this is extremely important because most quotes when regarding someone's strength/power refers to their overall Level. There'll be more showings of this later, but just to give a few
However, we also know that the level of a particular stat can matter equally as much
We know this is pretty accurate to the Character Sheets as well, considering the bar for Ainz's Physical Attack is about where the 30s would be.
Difficulty Ranking is a minor thing that gets brought up. It's used by New World adventurers to rank how difficult something is to beat, and seems to operate similar to Levels, but on a 3x scale.
So Lakyus tells everyone Entoma has a ranking of at least 150. This fits with Difficulty Ranking being roughly 3x Yggdrasil Levels, as Entoma is Level 51. Evileye putting herself at around 150 makes this more consistent, as the Pleiades say in terms of Levels alone, Evileye might not be someone that Yuri or CZ could beat, with Yuri being Level 51 and CZ Level 46
More evidence comes in the number given for Orichalcum adventurers
So here we have the higher end Orichalcum adventurers put at an 80. You know who's compared to an Orichalcum adventurer? Narberal in her adventurer persona when she clubs a Skeletal Dragon:
Narberal's Physical Attack is about 25. What is 80 divided by 3? 26.6
Level 12-20+
Attack Potency and Durability
Proposal:
Individuals with a confirmed 12 in any of the Attack or Defense stats, or who are overall Level 20 (or is at least equivalent to a Platinum ranked Adventurer) should they lack said stats, will be upgraded to 8-C, based on this calc of an Adventurer using a Fireball.Reasoning:
Zaryusu is Level 20 with a Magic Defense of 12, and he can tank two Fireballs "with ease" from Iguva, an Elder Lich, and thus can be assumed to tank at least a couple more hits before things get dicey for him. This is consistent, as stronger adventurers are said to be able to tank multiple Fireballs, even more supported by Platinum adventurers being said to be able to fight Elder Liches (which use Fireball), and Mythril adventurers being able to win easily against one. Zaryusu's feat is technically even more impressive, as one can see on Iguva's character sheet that he was just a typical Elder Lich before his stats were buffed via Ainz's necromancy Skills, so in reality someone on Zaryusu's Level would be able to tank even more Fireballs from the typical Elder Lich being used as a comparison.
Speed
Proposal:
Characters who are overall Level ~18 will be upgraded to Supersonic.Reasoning:
Zenburu, who is Level 18 is able to swing his weapon and cause what looks to be a sonic boomIt's already about as literal as it can get, but just in case it helps the raws also would have it translated to a "thunderous roar", confirmed by @SeijiSetto
This also has the supporting feat of Zenburu being said to be able to wipe thousands of skeletons in moments if he was let onto the battlefield
Although he's much stronger than Zenburu, we also have another relative low tier, Zero, an Adamantite adventurer equivalent, which puts him at Level ~26-30, making shockwaves with his punches
Level 62-70+
Attack Potency/Durability
Proposal:
Characters who are overall Level 62-70, or with such a Level in an Attack/Defense stat, or otherwise of course have relevant scaling/statements, scale to Low 7-C based off of this Nuclear Blast calc, replacing the current one, as now we finally have visuals of the feat.Reasoning:
So we know Level and Difficulty Rating comes out to a 1:3 ratio, but how does this help us? Well, the lowest confirmed Level of something that can use 10th tier spells is the Elemental Skull, with a Level of 68However Nuclear Blast is a 9th tier spell, so realistically people of a lower Level should be scaling, but we just dont have enough info say, right? Technically true, but we can make a conservative compromise.
Here's where Difficulty Ranking comes in. You see, it's said that it's possible to triumph over someone ranked 15 points higher than you. When converted to Levels this would be 5 Levels
So, given Nuclear Blast is an entire Tier of spell lower than what a Level 68 caster-type being can use, a very conservative approach for the sake of scaling is to assume 9th tier spells can be used by Level 67 beings, and then go down 5 Levels to Level 62 for those who can still viably scale to Nuclear Blast.
For a supporting statement, we have Ainz pondering Azuth's Powered Suit
We see after discovering someone in New World has a Powered Suit, an item from Yggdrasil, Ainz recalls info he knows about them, and he says they should only be equivalent to Level 80 characters at the highest tier ones he knows. He then immediately considers a rumor of Lakyus's sword being able to level a city to potentially be plausible, if her sword is on the same tier as something as a high tier Powered Suit. This should imply that at least those around level 80 should be in the range of power to cause and withstand city destroying attacks, given Ainz immediately posited that the rumor could be true after just knowing things on the level of Powered Suits are in New World. This won't result in a new tier being argued for this CRT due to the size of such medieval cities not being adequately known, as well as the fact it's only meant to be a general supporting statement that Tier 7 is consistent for higher Level characters.
Speed
Proposal:
There actually isnt anything for the Level 62-70 tier of people, so instead only physically oriented characters in the Level ~95-100 range will scale to 890 m/s (Mach 2.59) based on Albedo being able to react to Azuth's giant gun, replacing the current Supersonic+ value that comes from a calc which will be removed from the profiles for reasons below.Reasoning:
Albedo is able to react to Azuth's gunfire, all she expresses is how it would be a little difficult to dodge every single bullet from a full automatic gun890 m/s comes from using the muzzle velocity of an M2 Browning for Azuth's gun. This is because it's likened to being more of a "heavy machine gun type" of gun compared to another character's, as well as Azuth's powersuit is 3 meters tall, and yet the gun is still proportioned reasonably and is a good chunk of the height, making the gun suitably large to more than count for being a heavy machine gun.
This is consistent with Sebas catching the tip of a whip-like sword, with the narration explicitly mentioning the supersonic properties of the tip of a whip, with our profile of a whip stating the tip can reach Mach 2.
The current Supersonic+ calc not only doesnt actually have any approval, but also after speaking with @SeijiSetto as an attempt to get one, they pointed out how the calc is actually inflated due to the user's accidental use of radians instead of degrees. Thus it will be removed, with the value the top tiers scale to instead being the 890 m/s stated above.
Note:
A character should also preferably have good enough feats or statements to back their numbers up, and those who lack this will not scale. Biggest example of this is CZ, who has a massive Physical Attack Stat of 67 for her overall Level of 46, which is an outlier in itself since from what I recall, no one else has a stat that eclipses their overall Level like this. CZ not only does not have the feats to back this up (the fight against Ainz by her doppelganger does not count, as the Doppel Pleiades were buffed by a Level 100 dedicated buffer NPC who explicitly allowed them to do things they otherwise couldnt), but her Physical Defense is also 20, which should put her very solidly in 8-C scaling for the lower tiers of the verse, creating an imbalance that cannot be easily explained. As such, she would not scale to the Nuclear Blast value.
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