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The Thirty-Six Lessons of Vivec, Sermon Twenty-Five
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The Elder Scrolls General Discussion Thread
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The Thirty-Six Lessons of Vivec, Sermon Twenty-Five
Re5yh
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found this a few days ago
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Sermon 25
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I recently purchased the official Skyrim game guide from a local shop at my mall. I was very lucky in buying it before anyone else did. It's a nice collectors item. Hopefully in the future, I can add more to my growing collection of Elder Scrolls-related material.
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I have noticed problem with some of our profiles. Pilenal and Champion of Cyrodil have tier 4 by virtue of being stronger than wizards who could make pocket dimensions with stars in them. Problem is, they are likely not stars. VS Battle cosmology blog uses Kirkbride texts, where he clearly states that Elder Scrolls stars are not like real stars:
What are stars?The stars are the bridges to Aetherius, the magic plane. They are perceived as holes on the inside surface of space. Because they are on the inside of a sphere, all stars are equidistant from Nirn. Larger stars, therefore, are not closer to the mortal plane, they are just larger tears in Oblivion. The largest tear in Oblivion is Magnus, the sun.
This clearly makes our justifications for tier 4 Pelinal and Champion of Cyrodil invalid(and some other characters, that scale to them, such as Umaril the Unfeathered)
What are stars?The stars are the bridges to Aetherius, the magic plane. They are perceived as holes on the inside surface of space. Because they are on the inside of a sphere, all stars are equidistant from Nirn. Larger stars, therefore, are not closer to the mortal plane, they are just larger tears in Oblivion. The largest tear in Oblivion is Magnus, the sun.
This clearly makes our justifications for tier 4 Pelinal and Champion of Cyrodil invalid(and some other characters, that scale to them, such as Umaril the Unfeathered)
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It says the stars made by the Magne Ge aren’t real stars as we see them. But we know those stars within these pocket realms act as ordinary stars and celestial bodies and grow plants as such. The issue with this is you either go the FULL way and say that every planet is High 1-B with infinite size and mass and they somehow created their own archetypal patterns in the sky (constellations) or go with the most likely scenario, which is these dimensions mirror the mind of their users. Thus, they scale as such. Tier 4 to tier 1.
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Is there any planets within them(pocket dimensions)? Or only celestial bodies in them are stars?
If stars in pocket dimensions are identical to stars that Nirn inhabitants see(bridges to Aetherium), they would be functionally identical to them(give light, grow plants).
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The Godhead
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The Godhead (The Elder Scrolls) Rework
And that isn't what I'm saying either, the people I mentioned are the ones who attained Amaranth, this isn't a matter of giving everyone 0, this is a matter of giving the key to the people who actually attained Amaranth, and thus are relevantly 0. 2 profiles, that'll eventually cap at 3, and...
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Source?
Et'Ada, Eight Aedra, Eat the Dreamer — The Imperial Library
Transcribed from a spore-dream of an unidentified, evaporating Moth Priest that reached zero sum
www.imperial-library.info
Qurbonboev
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Found it. It's this book: https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Books:The_..._Summerset_Collector's_Edition_Strategy_Guide
There is copy of it on archive.org(would share link, if this is allowed, cus I am not sure if this counts as piracy or not)
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Thanks. Sooooo, what if our world was like Nirn?
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Alright. So since it would probably be kinda annoying to repost all of the scans and “discussions” (me talking to myself fr 
) about the relevant scans for the characters and how their powers operate, I’d much rather invite you all to the server I’m in to have you all see the scans and arguments/justifications for yourself. I am Barbelo. So just @Me and I’ll give you the shortcut links to it all. Obviously it’s on the elder scrolls scans portion.
) about the relevant scans for the characters and how their powers operate, I’d much rather invite you all to the server I’m in to have you all see the scans and arguments/justifications for yourself. I am Barbelo. So just @Me and I’ll give you the shortcut links to it all. Obviously it’s on the elder scrolls scans portion.
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Invite invalid.Alright. So since it would probably be kinda annoying to repost all of the scans and “discussions” (me talking to myself fr
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Smh. Shame.
If you want — if anyone wants, just add me personally then and I’ll invite you.
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That Akatosh profile lowkey finna go crazy ngl
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The Godhead/The Amaranth — An Issue
Recently, it was agreed that the Godhead from TES would qualify to the new tier 0 on this wiki. While I, too, agreed with such proposal, today I was doing a very deep dive into TES cosmology and I have found this. It is a reddit post at the r/teslore subreddit, in which the OP discuss about his...
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Hey, I sent you a friend request, since the link was dead. If you could add me that would be cool. I’m not as active on VSBW as I used to be, but I would like to help if I can.
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Oh most definitely
. Cosmology needs updating. New characters. New hacks. I made a cosmology google doc last year, which got accepted on PSW, but i forgot certain stuff for Aetherius and oblivion.
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A better question is which TES pages aren't outdated rn lol
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I recently started a playthrough of Morrowind for the very first time. So far, I have been enjoying it. It is definitely different, and more antiquated compared to Oblivion and Skyrim, but it hasn't hampered by enjoyment of it by that much.
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hey I know this is kinda out of nowhere but the song
is kinda the perfect theme song for akatosh no? with it being pretty all over the place (dragon breaks) and a tad bit insane (mad dragon god) and being centered around time the ruler of everything in the end (time god leader of the main pantheon of gods and church of the ONE and all that) and the song quite literally ending with these words.
Like a bumbling dragon I fly
Scraping my face on the sky
Oh no no oh yeah
not to mention the opening lines:
"Juno was mad, he knew he'd been had (being fooled by lorkhan)
So he shot at the sun with a gun (shooting lorkhan's heart tied to his arrow)
Shot at the sun with a gun (auriel's bow and its connection to the sun)
Shot at his wily one only friend (lorkhan and aka are brothers)"
like this is kinda scary levels of coincidence, no?
Tally Hall - Ruler of Everything
is kinda the perfect theme song for akatosh no? with it being pretty all over the place (dragon breaks) and a tad bit insane (mad dragon god) and being centered around time the ruler of everything in the end (time god leader of the main pantheon of gods and church of the ONE and all that) and the song quite literally ending with these words.
Like a bumbling dragon I fly
Scraping my face on the sky
Oh no no oh yeah
not to mention the opening lines:
"Juno was mad, he knew he'd been had (being fooled by lorkhan)
So he shot at the sun with a gun (shooting lorkhan's heart tied to his arrow)
Shot at the sun with a gun (auriel's bow and its connection to the sun)
Shot at his wily one only friend (lorkhan and aka are brothers)"
like this is kinda scary levels of coincidence, no?
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....Huh....
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I think they have a point, and the same goes for assuming expert mages aren't in the 1%.
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Thank you for your reply.
Are you or somebody else here willing to handle this issue please?
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Well we'd need to figure out what they'd scale to otherwise.Thank you for your reply.
Are you or somebody else here willing to handle this issue please?
I don't know if we have a different calculation ready.
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