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Truth States (Plurality) and Negative Theology

Livinaa

Livinaa

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I'm wondering, can negation (negative theology) grant you more truth states?

Note : I'm using the watered down negative theology, not the one used for Tier 0.

For example, Character 1 has 5 truth states, that being neither A, nor not A, nor both A and not A, nor neither A nor not A.

Character 2 exists in a state beyond Character 1, so much that Character 1 can't imagine and describe Character 2, implying that even 5 truth states can't describe Character 2. Would that make Character 2 have 6 truth states?

If yes, would this negation go on endlessly? For example, Character 2 also can't imagine and describe Character 3. Would that make Character 3 have 7 truth states?


Also additional question, can having more truth states give a character higher Tier, if shown that truth states correlate with that character's Tier? For example a character who has 4 truth states is non 1-A. When that character gained another truth state, having 5 truth states, that character became 1-A. When that same character gained another truth state again, having 6 truth states, that character became High 1-A (Meta-quality). Would having more truth state boost that character's Tier?
 
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Livinaa said:
Note : I'm using the watered down negative theology, not the one used for Tier 0.
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When you "water down" apophaticism to the point it isn't Tier 0 anymore, then the tiers it grants are whatever it corresponds to in reality according to the verse (e.g. If it's some type of Transduality). It could feasibly be nothing at all, too.

In that same vein, I'd say additional truth states don't inherently impact on tiering whatsoever, no.
 
Normally having more truth states doesnt qualify for higher tier unless in your verse, whenever you reach higher tier, you would also transcend the truth/logic state of the lower tier
 
Xipheria said:
Normally having more truth states doesnt qualify for higher tier unless in your verse, whenever you reach higher tier, you would also transcend the truth/logic state of the lower tier
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So if in a verse, there's cases where reaching higher tier is the same as having more truth states, like in the example i showed in the OP, which :

-Non 1-A character has 4 truth states
-When the same character became 1-A, he has 5 truth states
-When the same character became High 1-A, he has 6 truth states

Since it's already established in the verse that reaching higher tier = more truth states, would having more truth states qualify for higher tier?
 
Livinaa said:
So if in a verse, there's cases where reaching higher tier is the same as having more truth states, like in the example i showed in the OP, which :

-Non 1-A character has 4 truth states
-When the same character became 1-A, he has 5 truth states
-When the same character became High 1-A, he has 6 truth states

Since it's already established in the verse that reaching higher tier = more truth states, would having more truth states qualify for higher tier?
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Only 1 character being able to do that doesnt prove the setting of higher tier=higher truth state in your verse, but you must prove that everyone in the verse can also receive the same benefit (higher truth state=higher tier), if you can do that, it will establish the setting of higher tier=more truth states clearly
 
Xipheria said:
Only 1 character being able to do that doesnt prove the setting of higher tier=higher truth state in your verse, but you must prove that everyone in the verse can also receive the same benefit (higher truth state=higher tier), if you can do that, it will establish the setting of higher tier=more truth states clearly
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In the verse I'm talking about, indeed, the setting of higher tier=higher truth states is applied to everything. In fact, there's tons of background characters reaching ridiculously higher truth states due to the verse's civilization growing stronger with the help of the MC.
 
Livinaa said:
In the verse I'm talking about, indeed, the setting of higher tier=higher truth states is applied to everything. In fact, there's tons of background characters reaching ridiculously higher truth states due to the verse's civilization growing stronger with the help of the MC.
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then, are there any other ways to gain more truth states beside gaining new tier and reverse? If no then your question will be answered with a yes
Whats the name of this verse btw
 
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