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With the release of Iceborne, I've been seeing a worrisome trend emerge among some MH fans. Nergigante has become more and more hyped up, to the point where Ruiner Nergigante is seen by some people to be one of the most powerful monsters in existence and a potential reason for the lack of Black...
Well, consider that, when Disufiroa was first released, it was the first conquest monster. As in, the first one whose stats increase to absurd limits the more its fought. Since it introduced and exclusively used this mechanic (Shantien being the exception), the strongest monster claim could just...
So I've been seeing this claim tossed around in a few circles that the Fatalis trio aren't the strongest monsters in the Monser Hunter series. That honor apparently goes to the Frontier exclusive dragon, Disufiroa.
What I want to know is--why is Disufiroa the strongest? The Fatalis trio have...
Yeah, I don't see DBS going past 2-B unless fifth dimensional beings become the next big thing.
What's funnier for me is realizing that nearly every DB character would lose to tier 8 characters in fictions like JoJo.
That doesn't prove that the two situations are comparable.
Which could just mean that Jiren doesn't use God Ki and instead has a lot of regular ki. Again, prove why feels different = more powerful.
They aren't in the same timeline, same multiverse, or same dimension as Infinite Zamasu. Prove why that's equivalent to being in the same dimension--a few hundred yards away, in fact--with Jiren.
"This power feels different from anything we've faced before."
Prove why feels different = more...
Beerus, who neither interacted with any form of Zamasu outside of briefly meeting Goku Black or killing Present Zamasu and who was quite literally a timeline and multiverse away from the epicenter of Zamasu's presence, is not a good judge for Zamasu's power. Beerus in the tournament of power...
Yes, if we're playing the quote game, Shin's--and Vegeta's--statements regarding Merged Zamasu are more explicit and substantial than Shin's statements regarding Jiren.
"Impossible... God or not, I've never seen anyone let off energy like this!" -- Vegeta, the guy who's trained with Beerus and...
Not many who use legit time hax.
Hit's time-skip isn't like, say, Diavolo's time-skip. It doesn't have a universal range, and it only lasts for fractions of a second.
I doubt Jiren could just power through Dio's time-stop, for instance.
Still think it's inconclusive. Jiren crushed Hit's dimensional sphere, but that's only after Hit decided he wanted to go upclose and personal. Before then, he was just overpowering Hit's time-skip the same way Kaioken SSB Goku was.
Do what you will though.
Well, there's a consensus--barring the inconclusive votes--that Jiren wins.
You may as well add it. If you guys are wrong, you can always just correct the mistake later.
Goku's eyes returned to normal briefly as the fight neared its end. This meant the transformation was already starting to disappear before Jiren even turned the tables.
I've said my piece. We're talking past each other at this point, so I'll wait until Hit vs Jiren to respond.
Just because he said it while Jiren was casual does not mean he's definitely referring to Jiren at that moment of time.
Whis already knows that Jiren isn't at his full power during the Spirt Bomb struggle. It seems he knows more about what Jiren's full power is roughly like. Could that be...