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Recent content by MattadorProne

  1. MattadorProne

    Persona - Empowerment

    Lol sounds good
  2. MattadorProne

    Persona - Empowerment

    1/ Its not nullification I'm arguing for. We can justify it as high resistance alongside reactive evolution (he developed a resistance through the fight; possibly to immunity the highest form of resistance). An increasing resistance over time is one of the applications listed on the reactive...
  3. MattadorProne

    Persona - Empowerment

    @Dragonmasterxyz 1/ I'm still not convinced that Makoto's durability itself was increased. He has only one feat, vs one attack, to support this and therefore it should not apply to literally every other attack on the wiki. That is about the definition of NLF imo. Whatever we classify Death as...
  4. MattadorProne

    Persona - Empowerment

    Sounds good.
  5. MattadorProne

    Persona - Empowerment

    HP is a game mechanic. The amount really isn't important since there is no decenable difference at 1HP or 2HP. The last chance hit pointis very common in fiction and videogames. I have looked through some other verses listed on the TV Tropes page on the Vs. Wiki and have not seen this...
  6. MattadorProne

    Persona - Empowerment

    Resistance and invunerability to what though? I am not in agreement for applying this to all cases. We have absolutly zero evidence to justify this. Makoto should probably be listed as having immunity to death manipulation or whatever we want to classify death as.
  7. MattadorProne

    Persona - Empowerment

    Would it not be best rationalized as high resistance through empowerment or whatever? Makoto and Yu only tanked a single type of move each (Death for Makoto for example). Hence they should resist these moves. We have to rationalize how these would work in vs battles. Like the rational here...
  8. MattadorProne

    Persona 3 Protagonist vs Persona 5 Protagonist

    1/ AP arguments: Ren and Makoto are around equal in AP and Durability. Stating that Death vastly surpasses Rays of Control (which Ren tanked like a champ) or vice versa is without any real evidence. Makoto also tanking Death does not mean he could tank Sinful Shell, the whole boost is...
  9. MattadorProne

    Persona 3 Protagonist vs Persona 5 Protagonist

    His gun works. There in no proof in game for nullification. What this argument is based on is one instance where an almighty move possibly is nullified (since it is the profile writer's interpertation). However even the profile refutes this statement since, without more evidence, we cannot...
  10. MattadorProne

    Persona 3 Protagonist vs Persona 5 Protagonist

    Agreed. Ren has more win conditions and versatility: -Makotos weakness to curse element, which Sataneal carries. Would effectivly allow for Ren to "move twice per turn", temporarily stun Makoto, or a relative equivalent. -Ren's nuclear (and Psy moves) are effectivly almighty moves with...
  11. MattadorProne

    The Velvet Room Discussion Thread

    This isn't targeted at anyone, just dropping in my two cents. Why Akechi is an Awesome Character: Ren, or many of the other Phantom Thieves, could have easily become just like Akechi. Why didn't Ann kill Kamoshida? Why didn't Yusuke seek revenge on Madarame? Why didn't Haru or Joker murder...
  12. MattadorProne

    Persona 3 Protagonist vs Persona 5 Protagonist

    I agree. This is the point I was attempting to convey (although I probably did a poor job at it). Both abilities should work. The burden of proof lies on disproving them in this case rathar than proving them. Simply put, immunity to energy Projection provides the nullification, and resistance...
  13. MattadorProne

    The Velvet Room Discussion Thread

    My guess is that he's still dead, at least in the real world. Likely temporarly alive (until the "fake world" collapses) like Wakaba and Haru's dad. That being said I do think it is actually him, not some copy (which would be a cop out on the part of Atlas).
  14. MattadorProne

    Persona Scaling Chain

    Seems good. I actually still agree about your rational of equating Makoto with his teammates, since AP wise he is no stronger (I was never disagreeing with that, only using it as a point of evidence for the discrepancy in P5). That being said I won't complain if you feel it needs to be altered...
  15. MattadorProne

    Persona 3 Protagonist vs Persona 5 Protagonist

    A clearer replacement for the first image
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